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USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Post by jandrewrogers »

pragmatic wrote: post #94
ericpauley wrote: post #7

Title claims "due to plains drought" but the article text largely attributes this to increased planting of soy for its lower fertilizer requirements (related to Strait of Hormuz).

Wheat isn’t grown in the same places that beans grow. If you can, you’re rotating beans and corn every year. (“Roundup ready” of course) Wheat is on the marginal drier land. Not that they couldn’t plant wheat there but beans are way more profitable and so they don’t. The plains is by definition more arid, marginal land a step up from pasture/grazing. A lot of traditional wheat/sunflower/barley/oats has gone over to b…

> Wheat isn’t grown in the same places that beans grow.

It depends on what you mean by "beans". The Palouse agricultural region is famously one of the highest yielding wheat and legume producing regions in North America.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #102
YesThatTom2 wrote: post #91

“Dictators stay in power until there are food riots” is what every sociologist I know tells me. I hope the “riots” are in the form of voting.

I've always wondered why we consider it ok when an illegitimate, unjust, or unhinged government uses violence, but not when people on the right side of history? Like yeah don't go smash up small businesses and murder innocent bystanders. But if Trump refuses to leave at the end of his term, I hope someone has the courage to use minimum required violence to remove him.

>violence

Doesn't escape despotism cycles, and just makes a country a worse place to live.

Historically, without respect for people you disagree with, it only gets worse for everyone. This lesson was simply forgotten by many. =3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdVB-R6Duso

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Post by mech998877 »

pragmatic wrote: post #94
ericpauley wrote: post #7

Title claims "due to plains drought" but the article text largely attributes this to increased planting of soy for its lower fertilizer requirements (related to Strait of Hormuz).

Wheat isn’t grown in the same places that beans grow. If you can, you’re rotating beans and corn every year. (“Roundup ready” of course) Wheat is on the marginal drier land. Not that they couldn’t plant wheat there but beans are way more profitable and so they don’t. The plains is by definition more arid, marginal land a step up from pasture/grazing. A lot of traditional wheat/sunflower/barley/oats has gone over to b…

Whean and soybeans are often grown on the same land. Your 1st and 5th sentences seem to contradict eachother, I might not be understanding.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Post by cute_boi »

bluGill wrote: post #61
walthamstow wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When sold for humans it is called edamame. or tofu, soy sauce, miso, natto, tianmianjiang, a thousand other things made from soybeans

all of them are heavily processed and don't look like soy beans. (not everything heavily processed is unhealthy)

i don't think tofu is heavily processed...

Thanks.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Post by mythrwy »

fullstop wrote: post #39
koverstreet wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you forgetting the nitrogen? :)

The US produces most of their own nitrogen, but the same is not true of potash.

The US does have potash mines for example around Carlsbad New Mexico. But these cover only a percentage of domestic need. Perhaps they could be scaled up not sure.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Post by s1artibartfast »

If you enjoy pistachios, eat eat them this year, because you wont see them next year. California produces 70% of global supply and an indian summer this year ruined the crop. Many farmers aren't even planning to harvest.

20% of the remaining global supply comes from Iran, which has its own issues of drought and war.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Post by jandrewrogers »

mythrwy wrote: post #115
fullstop wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US produces most of their own nitrogen, but the same is not true of potash.

The US does have potash mines for example around Carlsbad New Mexico. But these cover only a percentage of domestic need. Perhaps they could be scaled up not sure.

Also famously near Moab, Utah.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Post by nkh »

btbuildem wrote: post #5

> growers expanded plantings of soybeans, which require less fertilizer than grains like corn and wheat It's not the drought per se, it's input costs. Farmers are favouring crops that need less nitrogen and potassium. Commodities have responded accordingly.

They all need diesel to run the equipment as well, which is also approaching all time highs.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Post by phendrenad2 »

evanjrowley wrote: post #4

Same region all the new data centers are being built. Unfortunately, humans can't eat data like they can wheat.

Shark attacks increase relative to ice cream sales. Unless you have some theory that correlates the two, that you're willing to share, we shouldn't entertain this.
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