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Sam Altman's Business Dealings Under GOP Scrutiny Ahead of OpenAI's IPO

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Re: Sam Altman's Business Dealings Under GOP Scrutiny Ahead of OpenAI's IPO

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Post by Arainach »

scottyah wrote: post #107
Arainach wrote: post #38

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Almost no one in the country is feeling a boom. Everyone is feeling the consequences of their greed and recklessness.

AI is the only thing keeping the S&P afloat. You don't want to see what it would look like when all pensions numbers start going down. So far it's fake numbers from inflation and the value is decreasing dramatically, but at least they still go up.

I very much do want to see. A necessary step to fix our problems is for people to stop lying to themselves and thinking things are "going fine".

A plurality of American voters are stubborn and stupid and won't change their ways until they feel direct pain, so bring the pain.

Re: Sam Altman's Business Dealings Under GOP Scrutiny Ahead of OpenAI's IPO

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Post by hx8 »

saulpw wrote: post #108
hx8 wrote: post #68

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What if it's actually super-intelligence and a human aligned visionary is at the helm. The good case is very good.

I mean what if he's actually the second coming of Christ. We can make up "what if"s all day but it's meaningless to even discuss them if you don't have a shred of evidence to support the claim.

Exactly. The second coming of Christ would be a very good case.

Why people want to believe Altman is good is about the same reason people want to believe in the second coming.

Re: Sam Altman's Business Dealings Under GOP Scrutiny Ahead of OpenAI's IPO

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Post by hluska »

hx8 wrote: post #112
saulpw wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean what if he's actually the second coming of Christ. We can make up "what if"s all day but it's meaningless to even discuss them if you don't have a shred of evidence to support the claim.

Exactly. The second coming of Christ would be a very good case. Why people want to believe Altman is good is about the same reason people want to believe in the second coming.

I’m really struggling to see how Christian apocalyptic ideas are even remotely relevant.

We used to be capable of so much.

Re: Sam Altman's Business Dealings Under GOP Scrutiny Ahead of OpenAI's IPO

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Post by solid_fuel »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #101
mrhottakes wrote: post #16

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Look around at the country right now

These are the kind of hot takes Bluesky needs to hear. And lets be honest you already have an account there.

Yeah good job man, stick your head back in the sand. That'll help.

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Post by jayd16 »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #99
shimman wrote: post #58

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I'm all for it, let them attack each other and hopefully the backlash will elect a labor President to turn the final screws on knee capping big tech for the next 50 years.

How do you knee cap big tech when other countries continue to push forward with it?

You don't need to cap the technological process. You can simply curb the power of corrupt individuals. If anything it would accelerate progress.

Re: Sam Altman's Business Dealings Under GOP Scrutiny Ahead of OpenAI's IPO

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Post by jayd16 »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #11
avaer wrote: post #5

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Personal vendettas between the world's most powerful psychopaths playing out in the stock market while everyone else suffers does seem like the current meta. So it makes sense.

How does everyone else suffer? We’re getting subsidized compute.

Would be nice if we could just afford things instead.

Re: Sam Altman's Business Dealings Under GOP Scrutiny Ahead of OpenAI's IPO

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Post by Petersipoi »

tlogan wrote: post #73

I am sure that nothing illegal was done here. But the fact that OpenAI was a nonprofit and then suddenly became a for-profit is definitely something that does not feel right. I am 100% sure that it is all legal and such, but we have this mental model that “nonprofits are the good guys, run by people who just want to help humanity and nothing else.” But that is not true, and probably never was.

> I am sure that nothing illegal was done here.

> I am 100% sure that it is all legal and such

Why are you so confident on either of these statements? Seems like such a weird thing to be confident about when we know so little about the deals that went down

Re: Sam Altman's Business Dealings Under GOP Scrutiny Ahead of OpenAI's IPO

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Post by boringg »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #105
boringg wrote: post #25

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Doesn't Sam Altman famously not own OpenAI? His whole arrangement is so shady.

So a non-profit can absolute invest in or own a for-profit subsidary. This is extremely common. The idea is that the for-profit returns will flow back to the non-profit and remain dedicated to the non-profit mission. Where things get really shady and run the risk of IRS violations is when the leadership of the non-profit has a seperate for profit stake in the subsidary.

When your public position is that you don't own equity in the company it implies that you aren't making money off of it. However if you have all sorts of side deals through intermediaries and you are making money off the entity it looks quite bad.

Re: Sam Altman's Business Dealings Under GOP Scrutiny Ahead of OpenAI's IPO

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Post by boringg »

Arainach wrote: post #94
boringg wrote: post #63

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huh? What are you are referring to is the lasting impacts of multiple years of inflation after living without it for 10 years. Those issues predate Musk v. Altman and would be happening without them. AI build out / boom would be full bore without them.

There is no boom. There are massive layoffs, massive inflation, and massive cuts to government services - all caused by the actions of Musk, Altman, and those like them.

Saying there is no AI boom? You are either lying to yourself or not paying attention to whats whappening.

Are there problems? Absolutely - there have been problems at every single second of humanity. We will always be plagued with problems at some times worse than others. That does not mean that there isn't a boom at the same time.

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