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Wow. That's a lot buyers. You likely know some of them.
I don't know any. Maybe I just have a better social circle than most. Or maybe this is a fake number. There are not as many people preordering this clearly fake device, instead this is just another way to launder money.
It's amazing what Trump can continue to get away with and still have many followers.
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>Michael Jackson did this with concert tickets, sort of. You had to pay hundreds of dollars for the chance to buy a ticket to his mega tour, to be refunded if you didn't manage to get one. People send their money in and have to wait like three months to find out if they managed to get one. Meanwhile, he's making money by the dump truck on the interest from all this. This doesn't pass the sniff test. If we assume that…
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I don't know any. Maybe I just have a better social circle than most. Or maybe this is a fake number. There are not as many people preordering this clearly fake device, instead this is just another way to launder money.
> I just have a better social circle This is very subjective. You can have your own opinions, but its really important to remember everybody has a right to their own too.
We also all have the right to judge people for their associations. You’re right to an action or belief doesn’t make it inherently good, or even equal to other actions and beliefs.
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I taught my kids the rule of law and what's right and wrong or desirable are totally separate concepts. The law itself only tells you what's proscribed and potential penalties, all of which have to be analyzed in the light of how or who will actually bother to enforce it and the incentives of the various parties enforcing it. Unfortunately the police come to public schools and try to do their brainwashing very early…
> I taught my kids the rule of law and what's right and wrong or desirable are totally separate concepts. You should be careful to distinguish "rule of law" from the law itself. Rule of law is merely the principle that laws should be applied equally to all. It shouldn't matter if you're rich or poor, man or woman, a member of the majority or minority race, famous or obscure, politically well-connected or not, etc. Th…
If none of those work, there can come a time when it will be appropriate to take similar actions to those taken to secure US independence from Britain.
It used to be that the thought process of receiving a portion of sale money before delivering any product allowed the company to pay suppliers and keep afloat as they drove towards the finish line of delivery. Now it seems the grifting-meta is to make promises around a product with no plans on delivering it, take in pre-order money, and then just park it in an investment account to grow during a bull market. By the t…
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I don't know any. Maybe I just have a better social circle than most. Or maybe this is a fake number. There are not as many people preordering this clearly fake device, instead this is just another way to launder money.
> I just have a better social circle This is very subjective. You can have your own opinions, but its really important to remember everybody has a right to their own too.
Wow. That's a lot buyers. You likely know some of them.
0.2% of the population is not a very large number.
It feels analogous to giving alms to a religious institution at the end of a prayer service - you don't get anything material for it in return, but maybe for the faithful, that's not the point?
I did not intend to say that tithing/church donations are equivalent to fraud. I didn't click through to read the story, and therefore hadn't assumed it indicates actual fraud taking place (delayed shipments in and of themselves are unprofessional, but needn't be fraudulent.)
I was implicitly wondering what might motivate people to trust that a brand that has been known to commit fraud, or at the very least to severely under-perform in terms of quality and on-time delivery, can be entrusted with $500 of their money, to produce something the brand isn't known for (consumer electronics.)
Having wondered this, I then proceeded to write my next thought down: Maybe there's more to human motivation than simply the possibility of a material exchange. For example, when one donates to a church, one can reasonably do so without expectation of receiving something tangible and material in return.
I by no means think tithing is fraud, per se. Can and do churches embezzle money? Yes. Does that mean they are inherently fraudulent institutions? Absolutely not. And I am as godless as they come, so I have no desire to defend the motives of any religious institution.
Oh well, I am now at the bottom of this comment pile, so this response, just like other religious acts, is one merely of personal penitence, lol.