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Re: GitHub is sinking

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AFAIK Sourceforge is alive and kicking, and it has an "Import from Github" feature that has been available for years.

Don't they inject malware/adware into your build artifacts?

Re: GitHub is sinking

#113
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's basically proof how well AI works these days. Give it a few months so they can scale and it'll get better. Remember Twitter fail whale? Growth pains that can and will be solved. GitHub's problems can technically be solved, but that doesn't mean they can be solved in a way where the economics still work out. If AI use is 10x-ing the amount of infrastructure costs for GitHub but not 10x-ing the amount of money M…

Yah, the monitization bit is challanging. I'll ask my agent to click some of the ads GitHub serves it ;-) But getting this infrastructure right is crucial for a future where most of the code is AI generated. GitHub puts microsoft in a good position to experiment and learn how to optimize GitHub (enterprise) for the future. Nate b Jones on youtube, https://youtu.be/FDkvRl1RlT0?si=AEYlUchm_oalMSzf , argues that Atlassi…

> But getting this infrastructure right is crucial for a future where most of the code is AI generated.

That's not the problem. The revenue model they have is based on a certain amount of usage from the people who do not pay (you, for example), and a certain amount of usage from the people who do pay (enterprises).

If you 100x you usage, then they need 100x the infra, which means they need 100x the revenue.

At that sort of usage enterprises would rather self-host, and github would be left with only the free users, who are almost all like you now - hammering their servers but not paying for it.

If you self-host, for $5/m you can have your own VPS, but doesn't really solve the problem as much as you'd think - those are all vCPUs and shared, so you can't hammer them all the time either because then the provider has to increase their infra as well so fewer accounts share a single CPU.

Either way, if you want to generate code with AI at the speed that an agent can, you'll have to pay for it one way or another.

Re: GitHub is sinking

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post #82

onedev onedev ondev I still don't see this tool when it's about a forge. It is a fantastic tool. Seriously guys, you should really consider it !

I'm intrigued as to why you're getting downvotes here, I'm vaguely interested in onedev. Edit: Though I do think they're mad for not offering a hosted version, especially right now while GitHub resentment is riding high.

There is a self-hosted version of onedev, it's oss. But there is also a enterprise version (I have one) with very nice plugins most of forge doesn't still have (like the web terminal to debug oui action/ci/cd).

Last week, Robin release a very nice feature for vibe coder. AWESOME

Re: GitHub is sinking

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I would not be surprised if AI commits are the culprit. There is no way any service would cope with a constant stream of unfettered commits by sleepless always-on agents. Ironically, this same strategy seems to be what GH/MS (and other big companies) are evangelizing - and therefore dying by their own hand (in a way).

AI commits are definitely causing the recent issues with their platform as Github has seen an unprecedented amount of traffic since the introduction of OpenClaw. They are likely showing us a future problem that other sites have not experienced yet as the tools have not matured in a way for people to be able to adopt them towards their eventual vision for managing someone entire digital life.

That being said, Microsoft in general in relation to GitHub has shown at least historically they've caused more issues. Outages on Github have become so common place that I genuinely think people have simply gotten used to it. The recent round of these were just bad enough where people felt strong enough to make their own down status page https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/. Whether you agree with how they gathered their data, there is something being felt by the community that Microsoft is not being transparent with these issues.

Re: GitHub is sinking

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post #112
post #111

AFAIK Sourceforge is alive and kicking, and it has an "Import from Github" feature that has been available for years.

Don't they inject malware/adware into your build artifacts?

> Don't they inject malware/adware into your build artifacts?

Aw, c'mon! The did this for about 4 months which ended in 2015! Prior to that they had Windows installers which did the same, but that also only lasted a few months.

It's now 2026. Exactly what software did you host on sourceforge from 2011 to 2015? Because I hosted my GPL stuff there, and I moved away because I was affected, and yet I am not concerned that they will do that again.

Re: GitHub is sinking

#117
post #8

Everyone wants to pin this on the Microsoft acquisition or incompetence but it seems pretty clear to me from the material GitHub has posted that AI has 10xed the amount of code being committed to GH, which has downstream effects everywhere - CI, Actions, code ingestion, everywhere. The author pins it on weird things like MS Copilot, which kind of feels like he’s listing off things he doesn’t like rather than casual f…

And why is it wrong? The logic is there:

- Microsoft committed to AI. - AI slop is increasing the costs for maintaining/running GitHub. - GitHub is sinking.

This is interconnected. I can think of numerous other ways how this would be handled. But Microsoft went the AI slop way already. There is no way back for them.

Re: GitHub is sinking

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post #4

I went to look at a repo on Github today. Clicked on the "xxx commits" link to see the commit history, and got told I've hit a secondary rate limit and need to wait. I'm the only person on this network that would even look at Github, and my connection has a dedicated IP, no CGN.

The only real way to browse the site is to be logged in.

They will gradually authwall everything they can. Just look at linkedin.

Re: GitHub is sinking

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The graph is not accurate, because GitHub's historical downtime data is not accurate. For example, here is a Hacker News story about GitHub being down on July 28th 2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12178449 Here's GitHub's historical uptime graph (on which this chart is based), saying there was no recorded downtime that day, or in fact that entire month: https://www.githubstatus.com/uptime?page=40

Looks like it's not accurate by under repporting not over reporting. So their down time was likely worse!

Or things didn't change much at all except Microsoft forced them to be more honest in their reporting.

See, I can just as easily make up a story that explains the chart.

Re: GitHub is sinking

#120
post #8

Everyone wants to pin this on the Microsoft acquisition or incompetence but it seems pretty clear to me from the material GitHub has posted that AI has 10xed the amount of code being committed to GH, which has downstream effects everywhere - CI, Actions, code ingestion, everywhere. The author pins it on weird things like MS Copilot, which kind of feels like he’s listing off things he doesn’t like rather than casual f…

Don't you think Microsoft ought to have thought a bit more about scale? They're not just innocent bystanders here. GitHub Copilot is a first class citizen of GitHub and so of course a lot of private enterprises are going to be using the thing that's bundled with the other thing.

Pray tell where are they going to get memory from?
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