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Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

#111

Post by lxgr »

cortesoft wrote: post #100
mafuy wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany at least, uploading even a single byte of content is illegal. We don't really have Fair Use here; there are only few, very narrow exceptions. It is also not even required to show that that single byte was uploaded, your IP getting logged as part of the swarm suffices. The burden of proof is on you now. It was much, much worse than in the US. While all this is technically still true today, a new law a few y…

You comment shares bytes with copyrighted content, does that mean you broke the law?

Context matters.

“Here’s byte 0x67, which is at offset 0x729B1A38 of Copyrighted_Blockbuster.4k.mkv, as requested” is different from “here’s byte 0x67, and it’s the first byte of my text response to your comment”.

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

#112

Post by pocksuppet »

miki123211 wrote: post #68

IA needs to do what Usenet has done. Have a bunch of mission-aligned but unrelated orgs (under different ownership and distributed around the world) that peer with each other, distribute all the content obtained by any of the orgs to each other, but that have no technical channel nor capability to distribute DMCA complaints and takedown requests. This is (AFAIK) basically how Usenet piracy works. You send your warez…

There are only 3-4 providers because the system is spammed with hundreds of terabytes of new data per day by actors seeking to destroy it. They can't moderate the spam because the pirated data is all encrypted so indistinguishable from random data, and because moderation would destroy their pretense of not knowing what content is being posted.

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

#113

Post by pocksuppet »

mafuy wrote: post #94
LocalH wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BitTorrent allows untrusted users (read: industry plants) to connect and slurp down direct IP addresses to swarm participants. It's an unanswered legal question whether low-level uploading (such as the percentages one would get as a "leech", connecting to the torrent and then disconnecting immediately after completion) might fall under "fair use" or "fair dealing" statutes in various jurisdictions. US-centric here: I…

In Germany at least, uploading even a single byte of content is illegal. We don't really have Fair Use here; there are only few, very narrow exceptions. It is also not even required to show that that single byte was uploaded, your IP getting logged as part of the swarm suffices. The burden of proof is on you now. It was much, much worse than in the US. While all this is technically still true today, a new law a few y…

> It is also not even required to show that that single byte was uploaded, your IP getting logged as part of the swarm suffices

What if someone would release software that would connect to random swarms and not upload or download anything? Would they still be criminally liable? You could disguise the purpose by saying it's measuring swarm diversity.

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

#114

Post by dopidopHN2 »

I have a related question on the domain archive.org

I've noticed that this domain now host content subject to copyright.

As a example : entire season of startrek "voyager" are randomly hosted there in direct download.

Why? Is that not a liability?

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

#115

Post by hggh »

dopidopHN2 wrote: post #114

I have a related question on the domain archive.org I've noticed that this domain now host content subject to copyright. As a example : entire season of startrek "voyager" are randomly hosted there in direct download. Why? Is that not a liability?

Internet Archive is a library. Libraries host copyrighted content. Libraries are good.

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

#116

Post by anthk »

pocksuppet wrote: post #112
miki123211 wrote: post #68

IA needs to do what Usenet has done. Have a bunch of mission-aligned but unrelated orgs (under different ownership and distributed around the world) that peer with each other, distribute all the content obtained by any of the orgs to each other, but that have no technical channel nor capability to distribute DMCA complaints and takedown requests. This is (AFAIK) basically how Usenet piracy works. You send your warez…

There are only 3-4 providers because the system is spammed with hundreds of terabytes of new data per day by actors seeking to destroy it. They can't moderate the spam because the pirated data is all encrypted so indistinguishable from random data, and because moderation would destroy their pretense of not knowing what content is being posted.

Spam is dead since Google Groups dissappeared and most people just use non-binary newsgroups for high tech/culture talks.

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

#117

Post by topranks »

miki123211 wrote: post #68

IA needs to do what Usenet has done. Have a bunch of mission-aligned but unrelated orgs (under different ownership and distributed around the world) that peer with each other, distribute all the content obtained by any of the orgs to each other, but that have no technical channel nor capability to distribute DMCA complaints and takedown requests. This is (AFAIK) basically how Usenet piracy works. You send your warez…

Usenet is a distributed policy from the ground up.

It’s centralised in the way you describe now that it’s only used for large files / piracy, but it used to me much more diverse.

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

#118

Post by pocksuppet »

anthk wrote: post #116
pocksuppet wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are only 3-4 providers because the system is spammed with hundreds of terabytes of new data per day by actors seeking to destroy it. They can't moderate the spam because the pirated data is all encrypted so indistinguishable from random data, and because moderation would destroy their pretense of not knowing what content is being posted.

Spam is dead since Google Groups dissappeared and most people just use non-binary newsgroups for high tech/culture talks.

The binary Usenet is the one that Internet Archive would be like. It receives hundreds of terabytes of new data every day. Most of it is just random bits designed to waste space on the providers.

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

#119

Post by abc123abc123 »

simondotau wrote: post #98
mafuy wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany at least, uploading even a single byte of content is illegal. We don't really have Fair Use here; there are only few, very narrow exceptions. It is also not even required to show that that single byte was uploaded, your IP getting logged as part of the swarm suffices. The burden of proof is on you now. It was much, much worse than in the US. While all this is technically still true today, a new law a few y…

> even a single byte of content is illegal 10010110 Watch out die Deutschen, that’s the first byte of Super Mario Bros.

Woop, woop, it's the sound of da police!

I heard a rumour that this byte also exists in the Legend of Zelda! No go get em Mr Policeman!

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

#120

Post by IndySun »

mafuy wrote: post #94
LocalH wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BitTorrent allows untrusted users (read: industry plants) to connect and slurp down direct IP addresses to swarm participants. It's an unanswered legal question whether low-level uploading (such as the percentages one would get as a "leech", connecting to the torrent and then disconnecting immediately after completion) might fall under "fair use" or "fair dealing" statutes in various jurisdictions. US-centric here: I…

In Germany at least, uploading even a single byte of content is illegal. We don't really have Fair Use here; there are only few, very narrow exceptions. It is also not even required to show that that single byte was uploaded, your IP getting logged as part of the swarm suffices. The burden of proof is on you now. It was much, much worse than in the US. While all this is technically still true today, a new law a few y…

Where is/is there a good source to read about this German uploading law?

Ideally in english but all is translatable.

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