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Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they are not the non-profit. they make money of it and devs expect certain kind of service in return. GH failed to deliver on the service expectation.

What money do GH make off open source projects on the free tier? I haven’t seen ads, micropayments to clone repos, etc?

It's the marketing budget. People only pay for it because they've used it for free.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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post #100

I recently moved all my projects to a self-hosted forgejo instance and have found it quite satisfactory so far. And it's fast! If you're in the market for a github alternative, take a look - there are options.

It’s not fashionable anymore, but I feel that Phabricator deserves an honorable mention as a self-hostable GH alternative too. Actually its “dated” UI is kind of a plus considering how bad everything is now.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

#113
post #6

Supposedly commits on GitHub are up 14x YoY.

I really don't understand people saying that this is due to AI commits and it is all the volume's fault. A volume increase that is a single order of magnitude (which 14x is) should not result in this level of failures. When I compare what Github does and the volumes vs social media companies, payment companies, video platforms, etc, it just doesn't make sense that it is just a volume problem. It looks a lot more like…

What happens at your job if there's suddenly 14 times as much load?

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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post #53
post #8

Lots of apologia for Github here. Aside from the fact that defending a billion-dollar company is a bit strange; especially one that is steward to the the overwhelming majority of open-source software. Maybe that's good-will doing the work? For me it's always been a sour pill to swallow that I have to buy in to a large companies internal politics and practices in order to work on projects I love. I don't feel like I o…

I think it depends if you pay them money. If you do, then you should indeed have strong expectations towards them and hold them accountable. If they provide a free service to you, then it's still reasonable to feel upset, but at the same time you get what you pay for.

Does this logic still applies if the company is getting other benefits from having me as a user? (Genuine question, I can see arguments for both sides)

For example, if I am using the free tier of a service and "paying" by seeing ads, should I have similar expectations?

I'm not saying that's how users pay for github - in that case it's more subtle, for example by giving up control of some of their stack and bolstering github already near monopolistic network effect.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"AI coders submitting 25 PRs within an hour of an issue being filed, GitHub bears the brunt of that....". What "brunt"? These are not large numbers.

Before AI coding, a GitHub issue might get one or two PRs after six months. AI coding has made this orders of magnitude bigger. The individual numbers are small, but they add up quickly.

Maybe I am really dense, but a single issue getting 2 vs 25 PRs seems to be no practical difference.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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A vibe coded app that most likely contributed to the onslaught of vibe coded apps that are causing Github to go down. I feel bad for the people working at Github who are basically trying to keep a sinking ship afloat and Microsoft doing everything they can to sink their own ship.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't understand people saying that this is due to AI commits and it is all the volume's fault. A volume increase that is a single order of magnitude (which 14x is) should not result in this level of failures. When I compare what Github does and the volumes vs social media companies, payment companies, video platforms, etc, it just doesn't make sense that it is just a volume problem. It looks a lot more like…

What happens at your job if there's suddenly 14 times as much load?

> What happens at your job if there's suddenly 14 times as much load?

You mean like every startup ever that has been successful?

And for a service that is heavily text bound? A 14x increase would not be a big deal.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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post #8

Lots of apologia for Github here. Aside from the fact that defending a billion-dollar company is a bit strange; especially one that is steward to the the overwhelming majority of open-source software. Maybe that's good-will doing the work? For me it's always been a sour pill to swallow that I have to buy in to a large companies internal politics and practices in order to work on projects I love. I don't feel like I o…

Let me ask the question in reverse: what do you have against them such that the fellow human beings struggling to maintain their operations don’t deserve even a modicum of kindness, respect, and good will? Are you unable to separate the business from the hard working people behind it? It’s not like they don’t know that people like us are counting on them: they recognize that their service is the “dial tone” for much…

If you pay someone full price to do a job, they know they can't fulfil the terms up front, accept the work, deliver less than the agreed upon terms and still charge you full price, you'd probably call that transaction fraudulent.

GitHub is promising service they know they cannot meet, not telling you that, and still charging you full price. What's more, one can argue quite convincingly that they're lying about their level of delivered service by not reflecting the actual level of uptime on their status page.

To give benefit of the doubt requires that the other party is not blatantly and overtly acting in bad faith. When they are, you're just apologizing for fraudulent behavior.

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