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Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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Unfortunately the most flavorful methods (espresso, french press, moka) also raise your cholesterol. So sadly, no, coffee is not universally "good for you". Filtered coffee methods are though, as the filter absorbs the oils.

The dose makes the poison.

Even caffeine has an LD50!

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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Always so cute how fellow coffee lovers will loudly boast the health benefits of coffee, but when you add an asterisk they will see it as a personal attack and respond strongly :) Coffee is not what defines your identity. It's fine to admit it isn't perfect.

My point is not that unfiltered coffee is good, I’m just saying that northern italians who eat dessert for breakfast, cook everything in lard, drink unfiltered coffee and even (gasp) sometimes smoke cigarettes are significantly healthier than Americans on every metric. Not saying those things are necessarily good for you, I’m just saying we don’t seem to understand this stuff very well

I think it's easy to for many to miss the sarcasm. Not everyone is aware of the life expectancy of certain Mediterranean groups.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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I love coffee. It's good for you, it smells and tastes so good. It wakes you up, and prevents sleepiness after meals. Its stimulant nature is a plus, but not necessarily the main thing.

Unfortunately the most flavorful methods (espresso, french press, moka) also raise your cholesterol. So sadly, no, coffee is not universally "good for you". Filtered coffee methods are though, as the filter absorbs the oils.

> So sadly, no, coffee is not universally "good for you".

Got a citation on that statement? Are we talking significant amounts? How much unfiltered coffee is too much?

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My initial charitable reading -- as someone who sometimes dabbles in decaf -- is that decaffeination has the bad side effect of stripping flavors, and likely many of the other biologically active chemicals. I can see from their further posts that they were more interested in unscientific fear mongering instead. That said, I do think there is some truth that decaf is lacking (including via supercritical CO2) and I won…

> likely many of the other biologically active chemicals. Do you reckon taking green coffee beans and roasting them til they’re brown right through has any detrimental effect on the biological compounds in the beans?

What do you mean by detrimental?

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Hey, man, drink what you want. It doesn't change my life in any way, shape, or form. But I have to ask, have you seen the image describing where decaf coffee comes from? https://i.imgur.com/aDt06Lg.png I do find it amusing. But drink your decaf, brother, do what works for you.

What would be a healthy drink that tastes like a (sweet) coffee but without caffeine?

Depends on your definition of healthy and sweet. ‘Healthy’ is vague and fairly subjective. Plenty of coffee substitutes exist, such as roasted chicory-barley mixes that taste decent and provide you with some fiber. Is it healthy?

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Why should someone hate on you just because you enjoy decaf?

It's common amongst "real men" types. It's basically making fun of someone because they actually like coffee and aren't just drinking it for the drug.

Real men drink raw unpasteurised milk while chomping on the coffee beans themselves, of course.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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What would be a healthy drink that tastes like a (sweet) coffee but without caffeine?

Depends on your definition of healthy and sweet. ‘Healthy’ is vague and fairly subjective. Plenty of coffee substitutes exist, such as roasted chicory-barley mixes that taste decent and provide you with some fiber. Is it healthy?

I've had a roasted barley drink called "Orzo" in Italian McDonalds. It had some of those same roasted/caramelized flavour notes as in coffee.

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Here are more fascinating facts about caffeine and cancer. Caffeine affects the immune system via at least two opposing mechanisms. Mechanism 1: A2A receptor antagonism (immunostimulatory) Tumors and damaged tissues release adenosine, which engages the A2A receptor on immune cells and signals them to stand down. Caffeine antagonizes (i.e., blocks) this receptor. Mechanism 2: Raising intracellular cAMP (immunosuppress…

Absolutely. I was recently diagnosed with MPN, an odd “you’re probably fine” blood cancer, looking to learn everything.

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Here are more fascinating facts about caffeine and cancer. Caffeine affects the immune system via at least two opposing mechanisms. Mechanism 1: A2A receptor antagonism (immunostimulatory) Tumors and damaged tissues release adenosine, which engages the A2A receptor on immune cells and signals them to stand down. Caffeine antagonizes (i.e., blocks) this receptor. Mechanism 2: Raising intracellular cAMP (immunosuppress…

I'm always up for learning more about everything. Point me in the right direction?

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