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A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

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Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

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Post by justsomehnguy »

jmyeet wrote: post #107
tgma wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I can't think of a single example where foreign inteference [sic] (or war) has had the citizenry welcome foreign powers as liberators or otherwise increased freedoms or conditions in a country for those citizens. That's one of the lines people spew as if it is a tautology without actually thinking about its accuracy. Germany, France, Japan, South Korea, need more examples? Iranians right now also tend to disagree w…

I should've said post-1945. That was imprecise. My bad. Economic sanctions are largely a post-1945 tool. Sure there are examples like stopping oil exports to Imperial Japan but sanctions as an economic regime where a large part of the world isolates you economically didn't really happen until the Cold War as the US remade the economic order post-1945. Since then we have a 100% failure rate for economic sanctions of e…

It's always amusing when some people throw SK in a debates like this. Clearly shows they don't even know nor Park nor what came after him.

Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

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Post by FridayoLeary »

jmyeet wrote: post #102
UltraSane wrote: post #96

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Just because the US sucks doesn't mean the Shia Theocratic thugs ruling Iran don't ALSO suck.

Excuse the pedantry but it's probably more accurate to describe Iran as a military dicatorship more than a theocracy. Yes, there's a Supreme Leader but the day-to-day government is really run by the IRGC. Not that one is necessarily better than the other, mind you. It's a bit like describing the UK as a monarchy (yes the British monarch is more of a figurehead than the Ayatollah is). But look at all our self-proclaim…

>However unpoular the IRGC or the Supreme Leader are in Iran, the US and Israel are less popular.

That's just wishful thinking on your part. Every iranian i speak to curses their regime and praise trump and netanyahu. Their level of support for the people bombing their country is incredible.

Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

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Post by customguy »

inglor_cz wrote: post #70
shameonus wrote: post #63

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the logistics of killing 30000 people in 2 days is absurd. visit the killing fields in cambodia to understand what a butchering of this magnitude would entail. their lies dont even pass the sniff test. but still this comment gets downvoted because the whole internet is flooded with israeli bots to manufacture consent for this bs in my view israel needs to be sanctioned until it gives up its nuclear weapons. it is a s…

"the logistics of killing 30000 people in 2 days is absurd. " The Nazis managed to murder 35000 people within 2 days at Babiy Yar, in one single region of Ukraine, with no prepared specialized infrastructure, just bussing them to a ravine and shooting them. Back then Kiev region had about 2 million people. The entire Iran has 90 million, 45 times more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar

> The commander of the Einsatzkommando reported two days later:

> > The difficulties resulting from such a large scale action—in particular concerning the seizure—were overcome in Kiev by requesting the Jewish population through wall posters to move. Although only a participation of approximately 5,000 to 6,000 Jews had been expected at first, more than 30,000 Jews arrived who, until the very moment of their execution, still believed in their resettlement, thanks to an extremely clever organization.

"no prepared specialized infrastructure, just bussing them to a ravine and shooting them" ... yet "extremely clever organization", a special order posted 3 days prior, which the victims followed. How do you envision such a scenario playing out in Iran?

And why not simply show the evidence? Whoever makes the claim, unless they're lying, is basing the claim on something. So where is it?

Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

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Post by justsomehnguy »

customguy wrote: post #114
inglor_cz wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"the logistics of killing 30000 people in 2 days is absurd. " The Nazis managed to murder 35000 people within 2 days at Babiy Yar, in one single region of Ukraine, with no prepared specialized infrastructure, just bussing them to a ravine and shooting them. Back then Kiev region had about 2 million people. The entire Iran has 90 million, 45 times more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar > The commander of the Einsatzkommando reported two days later: > > The difficulties resulting from such a large scale action—in particular concerning the seizure—were overcome in Kiev by requesting the Jewish population through wall posters to move. Although only a participation of approximately 5,000 to 6,000 Jews had been expected at first, more than 30,000 Jews arrived who,…

It is as simple as showing the 30000 new graves in a week. But somehow there is no imaging satellites working in the region.

Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

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Post by miohtama »

wesselbindt wrote: post #91
miohtama wrote: post #75

On other news, Iran is banning IPv6, UDP, DNS, ICMP to tighten the blackout https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/permanent-ban-ipv6-forced-nat...

Are there other sources than a linkedin post? I try to be a bit more critical of information in times of war. God knows we've been lied to before, by all sides. I've seen janitorial schedules be presented as a terrorist sign in sheets.

The LinkedIn post has the original Persian text attached.

Also there is no point to lie about this

Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

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Post by halflife »

Thiez wrote: post #95
halflife wrote: post #34

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Wow, there are no words. You would rather live in Tehran or Tel Aviv?

Preferably neither, but anywhere is better than Israel. Who would want to live in a genocidal apartheid state? Iran was a democracy before US and UK intervention, perhaps they will be again when they win the illegal war against them.

Anywhere? North Korea? Sudan? Houthi’s Yemen? The hyperbole broke the charts…

Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

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Post by jmyeet »

FridayoLeary wrote: post #112
jmyeet wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Excuse the pedantry but it's probably more accurate to describe Iran as a military dicatorship more than a theocracy. Yes, there's a Supreme Leader but the day-to-day government is really run by the IRGC. Not that one is necessarily better than the other, mind you. It's a bit like describing the UK as a monarchy (yes the British monarch is more of a figurehead than the Ayatollah is). But look at all our self-proclaim…

>However unpoular the IRGC or the Supreme Leader are in Iran, the US and Israel are less popular. That's just wishful thinking on your part. Every iranian i speak to curses their regime and praise trump and netanyahu. Their level of support for the people bombing their country is incredible.

Another shining example of how the diaspora is a representative sample from whence they came (not).

We've seen this with the Cuban diaspora, who were heavily anti-Castro. I mean let's just consider for a second who would flee a regime? Batista loyalists, mostly. So is it any surprise? This myth-making has become almost comical. Ted Cruz, for example, hates communism because Batista tortured his father [1].

The Persian diaspora is really no different. It's incredibly reactionary [2][3]. They were implicated in the attack on pro-Palestinian protesters at UCLA, for example.

The US and Israel are deeply popular in Iran. These are the same people who killed almost 200 school girls by double tapping a school. Is that really a surprise?

[1]: https://x.com/KavehAbbasian/status/1935738249995022846

[2]: https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/the-dilemmas-of-americas-i...

[3]: https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/irans-north-a...

Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

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Post by ajewhere2 »

hrmon wrote: post #93

US military "tested" some of its new weapons during the last war on Iran, in one case killing more than 15 kids [1]. So US tech is famous for improving life quality in Iran. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/29/world/middleeast/us-preci...

15? There were more than a hundred girls killed in their school by an american missile, just in one of the strikes among many, many thousands. And I think it is just a small part which escaped the western information blockade on the war you started with Iran, most of what happened is not reported.
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