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Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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Nice try, Claude Code

Is that meant to be a joke? I've been on HN for over a decade. Closer to ELIZA's era than that of LLMs. I'm curious because I'm also interested in hacking the Reminders app via its API, to add some features in a side app

One thing I miss from the Newton was the universal design it had for accessing app data and extending apps that made such add-ons to the built-in apps relatively easy.

Re: Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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The fact that there is no 1st party Apple made hiking and topography map on the Apple Watch is such a failure, not even on the most expensive “made for explorers” Watch Ultra. And things like gpx import is just a mere dream It’s a lifestyle device after all but still

Didn't it take them 10+ years to make a calculator app for the iPad?

No, it took them that long to decide they wanted to ship a calculator on the iPad.

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Apple Maps on WatchOS is pretty good but the usual routine is that I get on my bike with a route set and 3 minutes in the “are you working out?” screen takes over and I can’t see the maps without stopping to turn it off. Surely that screen should turn into a notification or silently record after some time without taking over the screen. I’m surprised to hear people at Apple work on this because surely they must encou…

You can also turn off the "are you working out" feature. It's in the settings of the workout part. Just turn off "Check In Reminders"

That’s a bad name.

Re: Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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While traveling in another country, I once forgot my iPhone passcode (don't ask, I'm autistic like that) After a few retries it put me on a 2 hour timeout. I had to get back to my room. I knew the way back on foot well enough, about 30 minutes away, but I wanted to take a look at the map anyway. I thought I'd try it on my Apple Watch Ultra 3. It was a few months ago so it was the latest OS. There were a few bugs in t…

On the watch it can be better to dictate than type anyway.

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This is Apple's work - they show all enabled purchases/subscriptions author have enabled for price testing. And once you add one, removing it would mean the user's subscriptions auto-renew would get canceled, so they stay and accumulate. And there is no way for the app to mark "this is the current pricing".

Does that mean if I subscribed for 22.99€ it would stay that way year after year? What could be the reason that Apple designed it this way? The only reason I can think of is customer protection (say 1€ a month changes to 100€ a month and you user does not pay attention).

Generally it means that yes, the price will stay as-is. When the developer increases the price (versus introducing a different payment tier), they have two options: either keep all existing subscribers at the current price, or offer them to agree with the price bump (users can decline though). Reducing the price affects all existing users automatically.

Re: Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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For others curious like I was, it seems he hired a cartographer to render essentially a set of huge, nice-looking, custom map images with details like hiking trails that Apple Maps doesn't have. So unlike Apple Maps, which is dynamically rendered, it basically shows image tiles. It allows for a nicer-looking, more detailed map, but affects things like needing separate downloads for different zoom levels, rotation, up…

I'm afraid you're mistaken. He hired a cartographer to iterate over the design, but from the images, he likely used that feedback to create a map style.

For example https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_style

However, you're also kind of correct in that the rendered tiles are typically cached server-side (presumably also for Apple Maps).

Re: Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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Didn't it take them 10+ years to make a calculator app for the iPad?

No, it took them that long to decide they wanted to ship a calculator on the iPad.

What's the difference when the end result is the same?

If you can't decide for 10 years what you want from a calculator app, then it took you 10 years to make one, regardless if writing the app was only 2 weeks coding effort and 9,6 years of deciding.

Didn't know Apple has so many astro-turfers here.

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I recently switched back to Google Maps after Apple announced ads were coming to Apple Maps, since if the default Maps app is going to be saddled with ads on my thousands of dollars worth of Apple hardware anyway , I may as well use the best. And yeah, let’s be honest, Apple Maps is good enough for most use cases, but Google Maps blows it out of the fucking water. In that light, I may be hard pressed to call it a deb…

> In that light, I may be hard pressed to call it a debacle, but it’s still third-rate. Not sure how that isn't a debacle: "The product wasn’t ready," Cook, who will step down as CEO in September, said during an Apple town hall on April 21, Bloomberg reported. "We apologized for it and we said, 'Go use these other apps. They're better than ours.' And that was a humble pie. But it was the right thing for our users." h…

To clarify, if this wasn't clear already: Apple Maps at launch was a debacle. It's present day Apple Maps I would be hard pressed to call a debacle.

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You can also turn off the "are you working out" feature. It's in the settings of the workout part. Just turn off "Check In Reminders"

That’s a bad name.

That is one functionality, but there is also the "Start Workout" reminder / "Pause Workout" reminder / "End Workout" reminder. These are the ones that I'd have to change, particularly the "Start Workout" reminder. However, I do want that, I just don't want it to be a persistent screen takeover.

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I appreciate this comes from an outside perspective as I've not heard of this before, but "Pedometer++ 8" sounds like "Dissertation_final_final_v8.docx" to me.

Yeah, I'd rather have pedometer pro max ++ or something like that. Make it more apple like.
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