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City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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Because predators are even at schools! Our school gym park is used as a toilet by dog owners! I want to have video evidence, if some crazy person blames kid for provoking the attack!

Your trauma is not reason to prescribe privacy invasion on others

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Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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Because predators are even at schools! Our school gym park is used as a toilet by dog owners! I want to have video evidence, if some crazy person blames kid for provoking the attack!

That’s understandable. Why does the video footage need to be able to be viewed live, remotely, by a sales team and a prospective client in another state? Predators have access to these cameras. There are numerous instances of police using these systems to stalk women. If I want video proof of what happened at a school, I’m much more comfortable with it being held on premises in a tamper evident location. That elimina…

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Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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Cluelessness seems more likely. They'd have to be pretty stupid to use a live video for a demo in this way - there is almost literally no benefit compared to something more carefully curated, pre-recorded and staged. The money saved would not justify the risk of something weird happening on camera and disrupting the sale. Or, case in point, the current headline. If they want a creepy vibe approach or to appeal to the…

I implore you to read the original source. https://jasonhunyar.substack.com/p/why-are-flock-employees-w... 404 media is massively underplaying what happened. > [Bob Carter - Flock VP of Strategic Relations and BD] also has some interesting searches. On September 30th, 2025 - Bob looked at just one camera. This camera is in the gymnastics room of the JCC. > [Randy Gluck - Flock Growth/Strategy] clicked through 3 priva…

Jesus Christ.

Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

#114

Meanwhile YC President Garry Tan continues to support and defend Flock. I'm curious how he'd spin this as a good thing.

Every single post on here about Flock should put in the title (YC S17).

> City Learns Flock (YC S17) Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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Does this mean there is no testing environment?

Generally on multi-tenant SaaS kind of systems you do have testing environments, but they're filled with garbage data, plus they are usually running pre-release versions that aren't yet ready for the light of day. It's where QA and CI/CD operates. Sales demos are generally done on a production environment, but on dedicated tenants that are set up with "nice looking" well-organized data (e.g. company is named Contoso,…

There's an obvious answer... just set up the camera in the conference room where you're running the demo.

Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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post #95

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Cluelessness seems more likely. They'd have to be pretty stupid to use a live video for a demo in this way - there is almost literally no benefit compared to something more carefully curated, pre-recorded and staged. The money saved would not justify the risk of something weird happening on camera and disrupting the sale. Or, case in point, the current headline. If they want a creepy vibe approach or to appeal to the…

I implore you to read the original source. https://jasonhunyar.substack.com/p/why-are-flock-employees-w... 404 media is massively underplaying what happened. > [Bob Carter - Flock VP of Strategic Relations and BD] also has some interesting searches. On September 30th, 2025 - Bob looked at just one camera. This camera is in the gymnastics room of the JCC. > [Randy Gluck - Flock Growth/Strategy] clicked through 3 priva…

dang or moderators, can this be resubmitted with the excerpts here?

Even if there's an unseen side to this story that somehow contextualizes this in a less nefarious light, it deserves more attention than it got on first posting.

Reading the original after 404 media's characterization was shocking: it's simply not telling the same story.

Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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Why would a gymnastics gym get robbed? It’s just a bunch of smelly equipment that’s hard to sell and probably very little cash.

School shootings?

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a faceless guy with a camera?

Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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Meanwhile YC President Garry Tan continues to support and defend Flock. I'm curious how he'd spin this as a good thing.

He goes to the same church where Thiel had his Greta is the literal anti christ speech.

Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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What does this have to do with cameras covering little kids doing gymnastics? I'm sorry you had a bad experience and using cameras to protect yourself is a thing but filming kids doing gymnastics seems very very far from purely defensive.

Metal detectors and private security are sometimes not enough.
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