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Re: OpenWarp

#111
post #28

I don't use Warp, but it seems to me they did something cool (terminal app), pivoted that attention into a profitable AI play, but a lot of people just wanted the terminal app. Now nobody knows what Warp is anymore, because they want to be an Agentic IDE and that's not what the users want. Do I have that right? I don't see what the point of this OpenWarp fork is though, other than adding more provider support. Couldn…

Warp is a terminal for people who don’t like the terminal.

Re: OpenWarp

#112
post #92

This is the most broken website I’ve ever visited on HN. From Safari on iOS: 1. Im getting non-English text 2. The size of my page is well beyond the width of my screen making it hard to scroll vertically 3. Constant popping/reflowing due to animations Trust this company with my credit card? I think not.

yeah the third item on your list is what drove me here to complain. how do you expect me to read any text on your site when it moves up or down approx. an inch every second?

Re: OpenWarp

#113
post #63

I feel this is the wrong way to go about things and I agree that it rude. Why not start by engaging with the warp project and see if some of this work could be upstreamed and if you like warp, target longevity?

How do you know they didn't?

Re: OpenWarp

#114
post #55
post #28

I don't use Warp, but it seems to me they did something cool (terminal app), pivoted that attention into a profitable AI play, but a lot of people just wanted the terminal app. Now nobody knows what Warp is anymore, because they want to be an Agentic IDE and that's not what the users want. Do I have that right? I don't see what the point of this OpenWarp fork is though, other than adding more provider support. Couldn…

I really like Warp, because it looks and behaves the way I want a terminal emulator to. I disable all the AI features though because I don’t find them useful. If this community fork were to, for example remove all of the AI features, it would be valuable to me.

Why do you need to have a whole fork to remove them when there is a single AI killswitch option already?

Re: OpenWarp

#115
post #21

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I agree on the name, but to me the word community here is used to mean it's not run by a company.

Historically, it means a community of developers have decided to break with the old project for some reason. Jenkins is a community fork. Mariadb is a community fork. Joomla is a community fork. Illumos was a community fork. Rocky Linux is a community fork. Valkey is a community fork. This is a personal project by someone with no connection to the project or its code. It is misleading to claim to represent the Warp "…

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Re: OpenWarp

#116

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Claude Code is very capable of making a terminal emulator with exactly (and only) the features you want. I did that for myself and it's now my daily driver. Has a few goodies I care about but nothing much else, and I have no intention of adding features for other people: https://github.com/cartermp/term

A personal Mac terminal emulator built for terminal-based AI work. How exactly does it help with "terminal-based AI work"?

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Re: OpenWarp

#117
post #58

at this stage, this being a fork instead of a pr is really weird

technically you can't create a PR without forking the repo first. practically it also makes sense for a larger change to be developed in the open before it is ready to be merged upstream, so a friendly fork with the intent to explore some ideas usually is fine.

Re: OpenWarp

#118
post #28

I don't use Warp, but it seems to me they did something cool (terminal app), pivoted that attention into a profitable AI play, but a lot of people just wanted the terminal app. Now nobody knows what Warp is anymore, because they want to be an Agentic IDE and that's not what the users want. Do I have that right? I don't see what the point of this OpenWarp fork is though, other than adding more provider support. Couldn…

Warp is a terminal for people who don’t like the terminal.

can you please elaborate?

Re: OpenWarp

#119

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so, to be clear, is it just doing random bash commands to runn ssh or is it a actual tool, eg, node-ssh command interface. i would not trust bash execution of SSH because it can easily hallucinate local commands instead of remote.

> i would not trust bash execution of SSH because it can easily hallucinate local commands instead of remote. Why would it be more likely to hallucinate local commands instead of remote commands if it is in an active SSH session?

I think you're reading into the statement.

It can equally hallucinate commands. Fine. The problem is, if I'm working on a remote machine, I'm generally doing things that I'd be less concerned about. If I'm on a VPN and it rm -rf / while I'm trying to clean it up; bad break, but it's not _my machine_ it just removed root on.

So if your LLM is just running something like `ssh ""` it could easily foget the ssh part and suddenly you're modifying your local system.

So it's one thing to YOLO on production servers, etc, but wiping out something locally is a significantly different event. Imagine it erasing all your scripts or whatever.

Anyway, the point is: I wouldn't trust an agent operating with just a bash cli running ssh commands.

Re: OpenWarp

#120

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so, to be clear, is it just doing random bash commands to runn ssh or is it a actual tool, eg, node-ssh command interface. i would not trust bash execution of SSH because it can easily hallucinate local commands instead of remote.

Background: I use OpenCode to do this. Just tell it to use ssh from the shell. From there you can give it extra context to describe the target (if you know/care about it), or just let it loose and if the environment doesn't have what it expects it will "figure something out" - just the same as with your local env. If there's some least common denominator you know about e.g. python it can streamline things if you tell…

I don't think you understand. I'm well aware it can run whatever command on bash. You're taking a significant risk asking it to do what it's doing via ssh, because it could easily forget that it's suppose to be doing ssh and do whatever locally.

The point is: opencode should have a specific deterministic tool like https://www.npmjs.com/package/node-ssh where commands can only be run; the environment can only be the remote; etc.

The last thing I would want is for it to suddenly forget it's suppose to be running commands as ssh and does something local.

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