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Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

#111

>It sounds to me like this is more akin to the Cellular Data toggle on Android as opposed to Aeroplane mode. If that is the case, it will presumably not prevent your vehicle from connecting to cellular base stations, which means your vehicle will still be trackable by network operators. ( https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/rivian-allows-you-to-dis... )

> disable the eSIM card in the vehicle

Disabling a SIM card almost certainly means no connection to the network.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

#112

It would have been much better to be able to disable telemetry without losing basic functionality such as navigation and safety updates. Having to choose between being spied on and having no connectivity at all is a false dichotomy.

Any connectivity at all is telemetry. The connection itself reveals where you are. Navigation reveals where you are down to the meter, along with everywhere you've been, where you're going, speed, etc. What else are you worried about if not that?

It reveals where you are to the cell towers, but not to the car company. My phone already reveals where I am based on its cellular connectivity, so I'm not too worried about that.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

#113

It would have been much better to be able to disable telemetry without losing basic functionality such as navigation and safety updates. Having to choose between being spied on and having no connectivity at all is a false dichotomy.

what telemetry are you worried about if you're already sharing your exact location at all times (navigation)

Why would you be sharing that? There's no reason why the navigation system needs to constantly tell a remote system where you are. Navigation systems don't even need an Internet connection for basic routing.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

#114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing that really puts people off about Zed is "VC-funded"

Hacker News is not for you then.

It's rare to find so many grazing in their natural habit, so it's a great place for vc-watching.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

#115
post #33

> limit or disable certain functionality in the vehicle: ... over-the-air updates, which provide new ... safety enhancements ... I wonder what happens if you disable the e-SIM (in the US) and then a safety recall appears via software update - do dealers have any way to update control modules besides OTA? This is a huge unresolved issue with EVs IMO; ICE cars are required to provide emissions-relevant updates over sof…

WiFi. Flip it on for an update, then leave it off.

> do dealers have any way to update control modules besides OTA?

Yes.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

#116
post #3

Reminds me of Zed's setting { "disable_ai": true } [1] Glad it's an option be it for regulatory compliance, security, privacy, or any combination of the three. [1]: https://zed.dev/blog/disable-ai-features

Zed is one of the best editors I've ever seen, I always worried the mention of AI would put off people who are missing out on a truly amazing editor.

It did, verifiably here. Based on their own marketing, I thought it an alternative to Codex, not Codium.

Knowledge of this setting has shifted my perspective considerably.

edit: not enough to ditch Sublime, however.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

#118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does that have to do with anything?

He expects an absurd level of effort from other people to protect privacy when he isn't doing the bare minimum for what he actually does himself.

> a physical button

New definition of "absurd" just dropped...

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

#120
post #33

> limit or disable certain functionality in the vehicle: ... over-the-air updates, which provide new ... safety enhancements ... I wonder what happens if you disable the e-SIM (in the US) and then a safety recall appears via software update - do dealers have any way to update control modules besides OTA? This is a huge unresolved issue with EVs IMO; ICE cars are required to provide emissions-relevant updates over sof…

I wonder what happens if you disable the e-SIM (in the US) and then a safety recall appears via software update - do dealers have any way to update control modules besides OTA?

Yes.

You get a letter in the mail asking you to take your car to the dealer so they can install the update.

Been there. Done this.

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