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I have officially retired from Emacs

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Re: I have officially retired from Emacs

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My usage of emacs is so vim-like that I’ve tried switching a few times. Vim is definitely faster, and overlays and cursor placement is much simpler and more intuitive. But there were still feature gaps and configuration issues that prevented full adoption.

can you elaborate? Heavy vim user here, have considered using emacs in vim mode to quell a decades long nagging curiosity. Just need a compelling nudge.

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Re: I have officially retired from Emacs

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post #70

My usage of emacs is so vim-like that I’ve tried switching a few times. Vim is definitely faster, and overlays and cursor placement is much simpler and more intuitive. But there were still feature gaps and configuration issues that prevented full adoption.

can you elaborate? Heavy vim user here, have considered using emacs in vim mode to quell a decades long nagging curiosity. Just need a compelling nudge.

Check out Doom Emacs if you are looking for a good starting point. The defaults make sense coming from Vim.

Re: I have officially retired from Emacs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> LLM that I run inside Emacs can fully control the active Emacs instance ... > you can easily extract text from anything This is what gives me the most pause.

Care to explain? Why is it? You think it's dangerous or some other reasons?

It's definitely dangerous.

Do you have credentials anywhere within reach of that session? Can you open your bank account in a browser ... within reach of that session? Are your contacts available within reach of that session? What about personal notes/emails/goals or other sensitive information? That people think these can't be added together in one very socially/monetarily destructive fell swoop is ... telling.

Ignoring obvious bad-actor concerns from just giving root to your whole life to an LLM running on someone else's server, LLMs themselves can act in ways that are extremely counterproductive to their organization/host/etc.

A quote/warning I learned in the late 90s is just as relevant today, "Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes."

Re: I have officially retired from Emacs

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On the topic of Emacs.

I have long struggled to learn emacs and use it effectively. Just for the fun it, If I were to use claude as I my teacher, how can I ask it to teach me to use Emacs? I don't like to ask questions and go back to try it. I want it to be a drive that will assist me with the usage. Has anyone tried such an approach to learn emacs?

Re: I have officially retired from Emacs

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A big loss for the Emacs community! emacs-aio is great! I see the author is spring cleaning: > I've turned over a new leaf (no more Openbox, Tridactyl, Xorg, xterm), and so some of these things I no longer use. On Linux I now use KDE on Wayland with a minimally-configured browser. I miss the power user features, but I do not miss the friction and constant maintenance. https://github.com/skeeto/dotfiles/commit/df27500…

I wonder what friction/maintenance he found with Tridactyl For me the friction always comes when I try to use the internet without it

I'm not the author, but I recently gave up on Firefox, sadly.

Since I needed to keep around a Chromium anyway, and I already am forced to use one for work, it became simpler to just use solely use a Chromium.

In the process I dropped some extensions.

It's been great.

Re: I have officially retired from Emacs

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post #21

A big loss for the Emacs community! emacs-aio is great! I see the author is spring cleaning: > I've turned over a new leaf (no more Openbox, Tridactyl, Xorg, xterm), and so some of these things I no longer use. On Linux I now use KDE on Wayland with a minimally-configured browser. I miss the power user features, but I do not miss the friction and constant maintenance. https://github.com/skeeto/dotfiles/commit/df27500…

Does anyone else not understand what people mean when they refer to the "friction" supposedly inherent to these power user tools? Almost none of the configs/scripts/etc I use for my heavily-customized and terminal-heavy setup get changed for years at a time.

A heavily-customised setup is very comfortable.

It's so comfortable that it acts as an impediment to change, since some types of change are uncomfortable.

This can feel like friction to me.

When I remove customisation, I am more "open to experience", and often find preferable tooling.

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