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Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Why do we still put up with GNOME? I've spent the last 10 years off and on from Linux. Had I used something other than GNOME, I believe my experience would have been better. I've been on KDE for the last 3-4 years and things work so well I could never imagine going back to GNOME.

Been a long time i3 user. Usually works well if you put in the initial time. But of late been very happy with Xubuntu (xfce)

I use XFCE too, simple and doesn’t get in the way.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Why do we still put up with GNOME? I've spent the last 10 years off and on from Linux. Had I used something other than GNOME, I believe my experience would have been better. I've been on KDE for the last 3-4 years and things work so well I could never imagine going back to GNOME.

I find it hilarious how much religion is put into Gnome vs. KDE in this case. I did use both. I honestly have no strong favourite. After that many years of Linux desktop environment DE hopping I came to the conslusion that the DE should get out of your way and allow you to focus on your work. Both Gnome and KDE support that. Actually Gnome a tad better as it gives you less knobs to turn an waste your time. Accept the…

I pick the software best for my uses and then look at which desktop supports that software and workflows around them the best. Not always clear/clean selections possible in my situation - I've a jumble of GUI designs and frameworks used, so I favour a more agnostic desktop.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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There's much more to the story. GNOME is a sort of authoritarian organization known for their antisocial behavior: https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotti... (and there's much, much more). Since GNOME is the default Ubuntu DE, they have a certain responsibily to listen to the users/devs and leave the system open (to an extent). But their direction is the opposite: https://web.archive.org/web/2021…

A distro making your project the default doesn't give you any responsibility.

I fundamentally agree with you. I don't think responsibility is quite the right word. But if they don't seem to care about a massive portion of their users, why are they building gnome at all?

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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What should I use if I like Ubuntu but not snap, just Debian? Or are there alternatives around? Seems like Ubuntu has the best hardware and driver support so just curious what's new in Linux land.

PopOS

Isn't that essentially a release of Ubuntu with a different kernel, DE and maybe some userspace utilities?

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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What should I use if I like Ubuntu but not snap, just Debian? Or are there alternatives around? Seems like Ubuntu has the best hardware and driver support so just curious what's new in Linux land.

I think snap is not preinstalled in Kubuntu.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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What should I use if I like Ubuntu but not snap, just Debian? Or are there alternatives around? Seems like Ubuntu has the best hardware and driver support so just curious what's new in Linux land.

Just don't use snap. No need to throw out the baby woth the bathwater.

Problem is most things are only snap. You can get them ocherwise but not by default

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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It's nice as always, but I have some issues. * Select - Middle-click paste does not seem to work * When something requires a password (ie just tried a bitlocker volume) the whole screen is blocked, so no password manager for you (unless you copy it before, or cancel - unplug drive-copy password - replug drive - paste.) * The default tiling does not jive with me, sometimes I don't even know what it wants (it always tr…

Select middle click not working is a stupid decision from GNOME to disable in 50. You can turn it back on with the tweak tool.

THANX! I don't know how people live on platforms that don't have this :)

As for the negative Gnome feedback (not from you but others) I do like Gnome, it's just enough window manager for me, I like the defaults and I like the touchpad gestures etc. Generally looks and works well for all I do. I always feel swamped by KDE.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Select middle click not working is a stupid decision from GNOME to disable in 50. You can turn it back on with the tweak tool.

Why do we still put up with GNOME? I've spent the last 10 years off and on from Linux. Had I used something other than GNOME, I believe my experience would have been better. I've been on KDE for the last 3-4 years and things work so well I could never imagine going back to GNOME.

Because Cinnamon exists and has a delightful commitment to functional minimalism.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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> * Select - Middle-click paste does not seem to work They did it on purpose for some reason. If I were you I'd give Plasma a try.

Plasma, meaning KDE. I've been using the Kubuntu 26.04 prereleases for a few weeks. No surprises from KDE, but Wayland has broken a few things. Autotype in Keepass does not work, keynav and even the Wayland keynav forks don't work, and Wayland does not support priority keyboard layouts for switching between two specific layouts.

It's called plasma now :) KDE is the association, the desktop is plasma.

I still mostly use Xorg though, I only have wayland on a tablet.

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