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French government agency confirms breach as hacker offers to sell data

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Re: French government agency confirms breach as hacker offers to sell data

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> the data stolen in the breach could include full names, dates and places of birth, mailing and email addresses, and phone numbers on an undisclosed number of citizens Nothing really new here sadly, this information about me have leaked half a dozen of times in the past 2-3 years or so. These things will never change if the only penalty the company/agency gets is "send a message to your users saying you are sorry an…

Or maybe the government should not require companies to KYC you for every little stupid thing or action you do in this world. What happened to requiring only the information that's actually required? Why do I need to be KYCd in the systems when buying banana, ordering delivery, etc. Because of the inevitable breaches and leaks - KYC is the illicit activity. The selling point of KYC was preventing fraud and money laun…

The overreach on access and then storage will be a meaningful issue we will have to reckon with more and more. Companies are acquired, companies die. What happens to your data in 5, 15, 50 years? It doesn’t just disappear.

From a few months back: https://mjeggleton.com/blog/your-data-never-dies

Re: French government agency confirms breach as hacker offers to sell data

#112
post #78
post #10

> the data stolen in the breach could include full names, dates and places of birth, mailing and email addresses, and phone numbers on an undisclosed number of citizens Nothing really new here sadly, this information about me have leaked half a dozen of times in the past 2-3 years or so. These things will never change if the only penalty the company/agency gets is "send a message to your users saying you are sorry an…

Or maybe the government should not require companies to KYC you for every little stupid thing or action you do in this world. What happened to requiring only the information that's actually required? Why do I need to be KYCd in the systems when buying banana, ordering delivery, etc. Because of the inevitable breaches and leaks - KYC is the illicit activity. The selling point of KYC was preventing fraud and money laun…

> Or maybe the government should not require companies to KYC you for every little stupid thing

Actually....

Say what you like about the French today, but one good thing they have is an electronic service[1] where you can generate single-use KYC ID:

    - That only discloses minimum information required
    - For a specific recipient organisation
    - For a specific duration
    - For a specific use-case by that organisation
More countries should provide this sort of KYC tool.

[1]https://france-identite.gouv.fr/usages/le-justificatif-d-ide...

Re: French government agency confirms breach as hacker offers to sell data

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It seems to me we must move away from worrying about ransomware, data breach, data protection as that ship has already sailed and everyone's PII has already been stolen. We should think of how to verify people's identities online (for things like government benefits etc). I have heard of the Dutch and the Japanese using national digital identity systems although I am unclear how they work. India is doing biometrics.…

In the Netherlands, there's a single ID you use for all official government services. It's essentially username/password with MFA, issued by the government. What is neat is you can scan your passports NFC chip with your smartphone as a means to verify your identity through this system.

Not sure how it solves any of the data breach issues, though.

Re: French government agency confirms breach as hacker offers to sell data

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Or maybe the government should not require companies to KYC you for every little stupid thing or action you do in this world. What happened to requiring only the information that's actually required? Why do I need to be KYCd in the systems when buying banana, ordering delivery, etc. Because of the inevitable breaches and leaks - KYC is the illicit activity. The selling point of KYC was preventing fraud and money laun…

> Or maybe the government should not require companies to KYC you for every little stupid thing Actually.... Say what you like about the French today, but one good thing they have is an electronic service[1] where you can generate single-use KYC ID: - That only discloses minimum information required - For a specific recipient organisation - For a specific duration - For a specific use-case by that organisation More c…

It looked great and I wanted to try it, but it doesn't work on the web and my smartphone is rejected with no clear explanation ("missing some security mechanisms"); probably because I'm running LineageOS with MicroG.

Re: French government agency confirms breach as hacker offers to sell data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Or maybe the government should not require companies to KYC you for every little stupid thing Actually.... Say what you like about the French today, but one good thing they have is an electronic service[1] where you can generate single-use KYC ID: - That only discloses minimum information required - For a specific recipient organisation - For a specific duration - For a specific use-case by that organisation More c…

It looked great and I wanted to try it, but it doesn't work on the web and my smartphone is rejected with no clear explanation ("missing some security mechanisms"); probably because I'm running LineageOS with MicroG.

Proving* that the KYC implementation is bogus as it relies on GSF. *Probably.

Re: French government agency confirms breach as hacker offers to sell data

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post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe the government should not require companies to KYC you for every little stupid thing or action you do in this world. What happened to requiring only the information that's actually required? Why do I need to be KYCd in the systems when buying banana, ordering delivery, etc. Because of the inevitable breaches and leaks - KYC is the illicit activity. The selling point of KYC was preventing fraud and money laun…

> Or maybe the government should not require companies to KYC you for every little stupid thing Actually.... Say what you like about the French today, but one good thing they have is an electronic service[1] where you can generate single-use KYC ID: - That only discloses minimum information required - For a specific recipient organisation - For a specific duration - For a specific use-case by that organisation More c…

Why do I have to learn about it on HN?

I'm tired of having to connect on EDF' shitty website to get a new PDF every three months.

I just set it up!

A bit bumpy because login on Ameli/Impôts wasn't working on Orion so I had to go on Safari, but otherwise its done. I even have colored pictures on the virtual CNI/Permis!

Thanks!

EDIT: Why do the put three stats about trains on your linked page?!

Re: French government agency confirms breach as hacker offers to sell data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Or maybe the government should not require companies to KYC you for every little stupid thing Actually.... Say what you like about the French today, but one good thing they have is an electronic service[1] where you can generate single-use KYC ID: - That only discloses minimum information required - For a specific recipient organisation - For a specific duration - For a specific use-case by that organisation More c…

Why do I have to learn about it on HN? I'm tired of having to connect on EDF' shitty website to get a new PDF every three months. I just set it up! A bit bumpy because login on Ameli/Impôts wasn't working on Orion so I had to go on Safari, but otherwise its done. I even have colored pictures on the virtual CNI/Permis! Thanks! EDIT: Why do the put three stats about trains on your linked page?!

> I'm tired of having to connect on EDF' shitty website to get a new PDF every three months.

It doesn't look like this app can generate "justificatifs de domicile", only substitutes for an identity card or passport.

> Why do the put three stats about trains on your linked page?!

I was wondering about that too

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