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Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by vunderba »

mathgeek wrote: post #99
vunderba wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a really terrible option for the vast majority of people who simply lack that kind of tech savviness to be able to do it. And in my opinion, it's kind of selfish. It also doesn't solve the issue if somebody is browsing your site on a mobile phone where the extension might not even work properly. WCAG is not difficult - but it does require some modicum of effort.

Obligatory “have Claude write one for you” (in jest of course). All kidding aside, folks have always underestimated how much accessibility helps even those who don’t think they need it.

Right? "Build your own extension" to fix a website's accessibility problems is the equivalent of telling somebody who is disabled to stop complaining about the lack of ramps when they can just modify their wheelchair with a jetpack.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by IanCal »

Planktonne wrote: post #21
DiscourseFan wrote: post #17

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I don’t know if that’s true, I made a little web app for displaying the schedule for my team based on our billable hours, and I didn’t do any of the scripting myself but I did have to think a lot about what the app would do and what it would look like and what kind of functionality I wanted, tradeoffs between functionality and specific use cases, etc. It just made the scripting part go faster, that’s all.

That's still less thinking overall that someone who thought about all of that and thought about the scripting would have done.

And even less than someone who wrote an interpreter for the script, less than someone who also chanted times tables while doing it.

More thinking isn’t a simple good thing. Given a limit to how much thought I can give any specific task, adding extra work may mean less where it’s most useful.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by danielvaughn »

vunderba wrote: post #36
simonw wrote: post #8

I expect most side-projects are being built with AI-assistance now. Side projects are typically time constrained - if AI saves you time, why wouldn't you use it? They're also the ideal place to try out new AI tools that your professional work might not let you experiment with. (The headline of this piece doesn't really do it justice - it misuses "vibe coded" and fails to communicate that the substance of the post is…

My biggest issue with LLM‑assisted webpages (Claude Code is especially egregious) is the lack of respect for basic web content accessibility guidelines. The number of dark‑mode sites I’ve seen where the text (and subtext) are various shades of dark brown or beige is just awful. For reference, you want a contrast ratio between the text and background of at least ~4:1 to be on the safe side. This isn't even that hard t…

I think it's fine, so long as the intent is to refine the thing after you've validated the product idea and direction. There are a million things to optimize in web pages, and AI can't simply one-shot good decisions yet.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by dematz »

gf000 wrote: post #30
dematz wrote: post #12

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>if AI saves you time, why wouldn't you use it AI might (might not, but often does!) also save you from doing original thinking in the domain, which in a show my side project is what people are interested in

But I might want some cool original project with a boring but working web UI, so that other people can actually try out what I have created.

For sure, I'm doing something very similar, asking an AI to make a boring but working web app using an API I'm working on. The API is the interesting part and the web app is basically just to test it.

I do think though if I were to delegate the API itself to AI and say something like the code doesn't matter, the high level thinking would suffer from lack of pain working through implementation details.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by Barbing »

mathgeek wrote: post #99
vunderba wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a really terrible option for the vast majority of people who simply lack that kind of tech savviness to be able to do it. And in my opinion, it's kind of selfish. It also doesn't solve the issue if somebody is browsing your site on a mobile phone where the extension might not even work properly. WCAG is not difficult - but it does require some modicum of effort.

Obligatory “have Claude write one for you” (in jest of course). All kidding aside, folks have always underestimated how much accessibility helps even those who don’t think they need it.

They might not need it

…right now, today. But they might consider “build a world for ‘old’ you”

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by firecall »

simonw wrote: post #68
slibhb wrote: post #44

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Just chiming in to say I don't care at all about accessibility and I find it bewildering that every thread sharing some project has a comment like this.

Just chiming in to say that the idea someone would "not care at all about accessibility" (and openly state as much) is bewildering to me.

If nothing else, as a web developer, accessibility is an interesting challenge and satisfying to do well!

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by reaperducer »

inetknght wrote: post #83
slibhb wrote: post #44

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Just chiming in to say I don't care at all about accessibility and I find it bewildering that every thread sharing some project has a comment like this.

> chiming in to say I don't care at all about accessibility I hope you remember that well into your adult life. Your hearing may be lost. Even if you could still read, the website doesn't offer an accurate transcription. You have to rely on someone else (or some other tech) to transcribe. You have to hope their hearing and language skills are good enough for an accurate transcription. Your vision may be lost. Even if…

I hope you remember that well into your adult life.

It's not even about age.

You can twist an ankle playing basketball and need accessibility features like ramps and grab bars.

You can get hit in the eye by a bit of debris when your toy drone crashes, and need help reading a screen while it heals.

People who don't think they need accessibility only have to wait. Everyone gets their turn.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by Barbing »

slibhb wrote: post #44
vunderba wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My biggest issue with LLM‑assisted webpages (Claude Code is especially egregious) is the lack of respect for basic web content accessibility guidelines. The number of dark‑mode sites I’ve seen where the text (and subtext) are various shades of dark brown or beige is just awful. For reference, you want a contrast ratio between the text and background of at least ~4:1 to be on the safe side. This isn't even that hard t…

Just chiming in to say I don't care at all about accessibility and I find it bewildering that every thread sharing some project has a comment like this.

TIL slibhb will be young forever
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