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Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by whateverboat »

BeetleB wrote: post #96
dagmx wrote: post #42

This is going to be a huge chilling factor for employees. You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy. Yes they could have accessed logs before but there’s a difference between directed checking after incidents and active surveillance at scale.

> You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy. When I joined the workforce a long time ago, I went in with the mindset that: Their property, their equipment, their right to monitor (or even keylog). I was pleasantly surprised to find that not to be the case, but I've always believed in their right to do so. Why do people expect to have a right…

1. But they are not paying for your training which you are bringing to the company. 2. About ranting about company, it is difficult to organize. That's why unions existed, and that's why unions were allowed to meet in work hours.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by whateverboat »

satvikpendem wrote: post #102
jaapz wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There shouldn't be any expectation of privacy? There absolutely should!

On a work computer? No there shouldn't and isn't.

This is Stockholm syndrome. Sure, you can enforce zero privacy on work computers, it will just lead to shitty work culture and lowered productivity.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by cyclopeanutopia »

BeetleB wrote: post #96
dagmx wrote: post #42

This is going to be a huge chilling factor for employees. You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy. Yes they could have accessed logs before but there’s a difference between directed checking after incidents and active surveillance at scale.

> You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy. When I joined the workforce a long time ago, I went in with the mindset that: Their property, their equipment, their right to monitor (or even keylog). I was pleasantly surprised to find that not to be the case, but I've always believed in their right to do so. Why do people expect to have a right…

I cannot understand how can anyone hold such outrageously antihuman beliefs.

Governments, corporations and any other organizations should all exist FOR the people, not the other way around.

American-style capitalism truly is a disease.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by cyclopeanutopia »

satvikpendem wrote: post #102
jaapz wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There shouldn't be any expectation of privacy? There absolutely should!

On a work computer? No there shouldn't and isn't.

Why not? How about a company-owned toilet? It's their property as well.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by storus »

kridsdale1 wrote: post #59
simmerup wrote: post #45

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Yeah, if at any time Mark can ask Meta AI ‘which of my employees insulted me today’ for example, that’s wild

I insulted him in my mandatory Exit Interview form from HR when I resigned. It had no impact of recruiters trying to win me back since then.

Narcissists often want to get the ones that ran away back to properly destroy them.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by cyclopeanutopia »

euroderf wrote: post #99
PradeetPatel wrote: post #83

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Tbh that's to be expected, the work machine is the company's property and there shouldn't be any expectation of privacy. I work at a tech firm in India, and we are encouraged to create skills.md based on the traits of our colleagues, with the intention of reducing key personnel risk. A handful of engineers were let go as the result of a re-alignment, and their AI counterparts are actively maintaining their code. I wo…

> the work machine is the company's property and there shouldn't be any expectation of privacy. A bogus argument, methinks. Consider that the company also owns the phones, but can or do they listen to every phone call ?

Or toilets.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by [deleted] »

bradlys wrote: post #85
wonnage wrote: post #72

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Everyone that’s left either buys into the culture or is stuck due to immigration

Or stuck with HCOL that is the Bay Area. There’s not really any purely “ethical” companies in the Bay Area that pay enough for you to live there. You’d be surprised how few people actually buy into the corporate culture at these companies. It’s just to get paid because everyone needs a job to pay their expenses. You want to solve this then lower the cost of housing.

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Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by OkayPhysicist »

BeetleB wrote: post #97
kridsdale1 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I insulted him in my mandatory Exit Interview form from HR when I resigned. It had no impact of recruiters trying to win me back since then.

> I insulted him in my mandatory Exit Interview form from HR when I resigned. How can they legally mandate an exit interview when you resigned? Is it part of the employment contract? What would have happened if you showed them the finger and not participated?

They can't legally mandate an exit interview, but they sure can pay you for one.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by miltonlost »

BeetleB wrote: post #96
dagmx wrote: post #42

This is going to be a huge chilling factor for employees. You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy. Yes they could have accessed logs before but there’s a difference between directed checking after incidents and active surveillance at scale.

> You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy. When I joined the workforce a long time ago, I went in with the mindset that: Their property, their equipment, their right to monitor (or even keylog). I was pleasantly surprised to find that not to be the case, but I've always believed in their right to do so. Why do people expect to have a right…

You would love the world of Severance! Drop your humanity and individuality at the door. Become a mindless drone
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