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i dont think crimes define whether states have a right to exist.
they just dont have a right to exist. states exist by consent of the governed.
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Nation states generally do not have rights.
The hypothetical “right to exist” is typically juxtaposed against its adversaries’ rights/efforts/privilege to wipe them off the face of the earth.
If a nation-state, or ethnoreligious group, has rights, then efforts to destroy it would not gain popular support.
Do ethnoreligious groups have a right to survival without suffering genocide? Does the international community, or Security Council, have a duty to prevent genocide, or the extinction of any particular nation-state?
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This part https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi Edit: Sorry, I can't reply to your comment below, for some reason. This part, > Did you know that Jews lived among Muslims for over a thousand years in peace? is revisionist because it paints second-class status for Jews as "peace". This is ridiculous, a fiction akin to "separate but equal" without even the pretense of equality. Additionally, > The violence started happe…
> is revisionist because it paints second-class status for Jews as "peace". This is ridiculous, a fiction akin to "separate but equal" without even the pretense of equality. Let's agree for a moment that there was intense bigotry and prejudice, as I'm very sure there was some amount. As we can also agree, there is human tribalism alive and well to this day between people of minimal or great differences. Separate but…
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I feel I've pretty clearly answered your question of "what 'revisionist' means in that context". Dhimmitude is absolutely not a basis for peace. If it helps, think of Zionism as a civil rights movement, but more aligned with Malcom X than MLK.
I don't believe it's incidental that there have always been Jewish settlements, it's exactly the point: Muslims were fine with Jewish settlements so long as the Jews were subservient to a ruling Muslim power, but Jewish self-determination was intolerable.
I do agree that arguing about who deserves what is not constructive. 1948 was 78 years ago, there are ~10 million Israelis, and the country has nukes. The historical perspective is not very helpful here.
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Hacker News is an American website. Hacker News allows political discussion. Israel is very relevant to American politics, many would argue too much so, but in any case, why shouldn't it be discussed here?
22122 is a familiar looking username.
hiya, long time no see! if so
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compared to whom? how does one measure that purity? certainly Hammas is more pure in those terms, not that it is a competition (but you're alluding that it is).
They all suck. There are no good polities in the Middle East. At this stage into the genocide-counter-genocide cycle, there are no clean hands left.
We need to switch to renewables asap, and just withdraw completely from the Middle East. They all want to kill one another for fanatical or ethnic reasons, and we clearly have no capacity to stop them. We should insulate ourselves from the region and restrict any involvement to humanitarian assistance.
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Nobody says this about any Islamic country
When an “Islamic country” starts getting several billions of dollars in aid from the US and begins “quadruple tapping” civilians, then I suppose there will be some outrage. In the meantime, this outrage appears to be more based in the criminal conduct of a genocidal state than any religious amenity
??? The US gives billions in aid to Jordan and Egypt, who torture and kill dissident civilians.
And, it's not a genocide to lose a war you started.
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#118How long will the world continue to tolerate Israel's egregious war crimes?
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#119If you want to understand the mentality of the zionists, watch this: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzL5_JhA_QT
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