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Middle schooler finds coin from Troy in Berlin

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Re: Middle schooler finds coin from Troy in Berlin

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Unsure if this is the connection, but the guy who discovered Troy in the late 1800's (Heinrich Schliemann) actually brought Troy artifacts to a Berlin museum, which someone with more knowledge of Berlin than me may be able to draw more connections from. Per his Wikipedia: "In 1874 Schliemann published Troy and Its Remains. Schliemann at first offered his collections, which included Priam's Gold, to the Greek governme…

Berlin has dozens of museums with classical artefacts, notably the Pergamon. It is highly likely that it was looted by the Red Army or even a German during the war.

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I knew vaguely that Troy had many layers of settlement, but I didn't realize that Troy had an extensive life in antiquity that extended into the classical Greek age (Post-Bronze Age) and Early Roman Age. It's funny to think of Roman and Greek Tourists visiting Troy VIII in 300 BC.

Was there anything resembling tourism in 300 BC?

There was trading, and that alone could shift objects well away from their original locations without any contact with the original creators.

There were also nomads, pilgrimages (as some have said), and African swallows.

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I knew vaguely that Troy had many layers of settlement, but I didn't realize that Troy had an extensive life in antiquity that extended into the classical Greek age (Post-Bronze Age) and Early Roman Age. It's funny to think of Roman and Greek Tourists visiting Troy VIII in 300 BC.

Don't underestimate ancient globalization. Heck, Inuit had Chinese bronze artifacts [0] well before European contact (basically 4,000 miles). [0] - https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/archive/releases/2016/Q2/old...

Trade =/= globalisation.

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As a child I was walking down the street and kicked something by chance that sounded metallic. 150 year old coin, irrc. Just there on the asphalt next to the sidewalk. Unfortunately bronze, with trimmed edges, common mint and worth very little. But if you tell me someone just stumbles onto and old coin in the street just lime that, I pretty much believe it.

I have a similar story, but I was playing on the beach. There was a mound right next to it and I would love to play there, and the mound had some funny stones. One of them was square with something painted on it, I was fascinated by romans so I annoyed my parents with "I found a mosaic!" and took it with me. Turns out, years later, they excavated a roman villa there. Funnily enough, the same beach has roman villas, d…

As the saying goes, "location location location". Must have been a pretty strategically important beach.

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> no, but in first century bc and after that the roman world was connected enough that rich young romans were doing their version of the grand tour. So "yes", then.

The og question is about two centuries earlier. Time matters.

Define tourism, though. Even quit a bit before 300 BC Herodotus did go to Egypt for not particularly practical reasons

Re: Middle schooler finds coin from Troy in Berlin

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As a child I was walking down the street and kicked something by chance that sounded metallic. 150 year old coin, irrc. Just there on the asphalt next to the sidewalk. Unfortunately bronze, with trimmed edges, common mint and worth very little. But if you tell me someone just stumbles onto and old coin in the street just lime that, I pretty much believe it.

I have a similar story, but I was playing on the beach. There was a mound right next to it and I would love to play there, and the mound had some funny stones. One of them was square with something painted on it, I was fascinated by romans so I annoyed my parents with "I found a mosaic!" and took it with me. Turns out, years later, they excavated a roman villa there. Funnily enough, the same beach has roman villas, d…

Slovenian/Croatian coast?

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And they're still a pain to spend, because too many people refuse to believe they're real money. Or else don't want to take them because there isn't a slot in their cash drawer. I inherited a couple of bundles from my dad last year (he made $2 bills his "thing", much like Woz, because he enjoyed arguing with cashiers), and exchanged them all at the bank for "real money".

Many years ago a friend of mine used to tip bartenders and servers with dollar coins (a dollar tip on a drink was good at the time). They remembered him for that and he got better service even though it was probably a bit of a PITA for them to deal with the coins. $2 bills could probaby be used in a similar fashion.

Tips are a good use because they go into the pocket, not the cash register - and it makes you memorable.

Re: Middle schooler finds coin from Troy in Berlin

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many years ago a friend of mine used to tip bartenders and servers with dollar coins (a dollar tip on a drink was good at the time). They remembered him for that and he got better service even though it was probably a bit of a PITA for them to deal with the coins. $2 bills could probaby be used in a similar fashion.

Tips are a good use because they go into the pocket, not the cash register - and it makes you memorable.

> they go into the pocket

That is, assuming the worker has a pocket to receive the tips.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_two-dollar_bill#...

Re: Middle schooler finds coin from Troy in Berlin

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The og question is about two centuries earlier. Time matters.

Define tourism, though. Even quit a bit before 300 BC Herodotus did go to Egypt for not particularly practical reasons

To write a travel guide papyrus. :)
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