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Re: ChatGPT for Excel

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I’ve always found it unbelievable how bad Gemini’s Google Sheets interaction is. Copying the sheets into Claude and then modifying them there and copying them back actually outperforms it. Nowadays I just make single-purpose websites with Claude Code because Google Sheets has such poor AI integration and is outrageously tedious to edit. They had all the parts and I have a subscription and it still does terrible thing…

My local models interact with Sheets exclusively over the API with Python scripts I been curating for years

Given how well the API works, that we are discussing Googlers, my guess is that's how they dog food their services. Programmers don't get hired by Google for mouse skills.

The GUI is for spot checking results, final presentation.

If you're sitting there point-n-clicking everything into place perhaps consider you are doing it wrong.

Re: ChatGPT for Excel

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post #102

I’ve always found it unbelievable how bad Gemini’s Google Sheets interaction is. Copying the sheets into Claude and then modifying them there and copying them back actually outperforms it. Nowadays I just make single-purpose websites with Claude Code because Google Sheets has such poor AI integration and is outrageously tedious to edit. They had all the parts and I have a subscription and it still does terrible thing…

My local models interact with Sheets exclusively over the API with Python scripts I been curating for years Given how well the API works, that we are discussing Googlers, my guess is that's how they dog food their services. Programmers don't get hired by Google for mouse skills. The GUI is for spot checking results, final presentation. If you're sitting there point-n-clicking everything into place perhaps consider yo…

That sounds like an extremely narrow use case, compared to what the vast majority of Sheets users will be comfortable with

Re: ChatGPT for Excel

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Does a highly performant XLSX tool exist? I want to be able to open a 500k row, 60+ column table in Excel and manipulate it at 60+ FPS. Zero lag. I feel like Excel has never - ahem - excelled in this department. Libreoffice comes close and I enjoy it on Linux, but on my M2 Macbook Air it struggles.

Try https://rowzero.com ? We have written a much faster spreadsheet engine and regularly work with 10M+ row datasets

Re: ChatGPT for Excel

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What are the costs on that? Does this remove (or at least increase) the upload limit?

$200-something per user per year. Will vary based on license type and seat count. No limits.

> No limits.

Yet.

Re: ChatGPT for Excel

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My local models interact with Sheets exclusively over the API with Python scripts I been curating for years Given how well the API works, that we are discussing Googlers, my guess is that's how they dog food their services. Programmers don't get hired by Google for mouse skills. The GUI is for spot checking results, final presentation. If you're sitting there point-n-clicking everything into place perhaps consider yo…

That sounds like an extremely narrow use case, compared to what the vast majority of Sheets users will be comfortable with

At the same time, it makes some sense... the programmers for a system aren't always the best users of a system. So if you're expecting them to dogfood their own system (Google Sheets), you might find that they test/interact with the system primarily through the API and not the GUI.

I have no idea if they do or not, but it's a plausible explanation...

Re: ChatGPT for Excel

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My local models interact with Sheets exclusively over the API with Python scripts I been curating for years Given how well the API works, that we are discussing Googlers, my guess is that's how they dog food their services. Programmers don't get hired by Google for mouse skills. The GUI is for spot checking results, final presentation. If you're sitting there point-n-clicking everything into place perhaps consider yo…

That sounds like an extremely narrow use case, compared to what the vast majority of Sheets users will be comfortable with

Use case feels like the wrong term.

Do you mean restricted workflow? Googles APIs are pretty much 1:1 to the GUI

And using Python makes it trivial to copy-paste out of files and other APIs with one run of Python

Versus all the fiddling in browser tabs with a mouse, it actually affords an incredibly wide set of options to quickly collate and format data

Re: ChatGPT for Excel

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post #102

I’ve always found it unbelievable how bad Gemini’s Google Sheets interaction is. Copying the sheets into Claude and then modifying them there and copying them back actually outperforms it. Nowadays I just make single-purpose websites with Claude Code because Google Sheets has such poor AI integration and is outrageously tedious to edit. They had all the parts and I have a subscription and it still does terrible thing…

My local models interact with Sheets exclusively over the API with Python scripts I been curating for years Given how well the API works, that we are discussing Googlers, my guess is that's how they dog food their services. Programmers don't get hired by Google for mouse skills. The GUI is for spot checking results, final presentation. If you're sitting there point-n-clicking everything into place perhaps consider yo…

How? This argument would make sense if sheets wasn’t targeted at a general audience.
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