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> A respectable software provider should warn you about this kind of behaviour at install time, and give you the opportunity to opt out They honestly only need to disclose. Requiring contribution as part of the social contract is perfectly okay—if someone disagrees, they don’t get to use Gas Town.
They didn't disclose it though. It's no different from sticking a bitcoin miner in a video game and telling the user "WARNING DANGER CAUTION ;)"
Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?
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Just like with NFTs, this is all going to discredit the actually sensible use cases for years.
...still haven't seen single sensible use case for one that couldn't be solved easier/better/cheaper normal way
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I have historically liked Yegge's writing, and he's been pretty tuned into what's happening in tech...he rightly predicted JavaScript would take over the world (many people predicted it, as well, including me, but it wasn't obviously true to everyone for another year or two after that prediction was made). I don't think I ever really deeply disagreed with something so much as I disagree with him on AI. I mean, it's i…
I think his writing is a mix of word salad and eloquent bs.
Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?
#114"I've never used Gas Town, but I'm mad that there are people who like something I don't like."
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#115It seems completely in the spirit of Gas Town. A respectable software provider should warn you about this kind of behaviour at install time, and give you the opportunity to opt out. Gas Town fulfilled all its obligations in this regard with these (and other) warnings in the original announcement: > WARNING DANGER CAUTION > GET THE F** OUT > YOU WILL DIE
That was some time ago. According to Yegge, Gas Town is now stable and ready for everyday use. > Gas Town “just works.” It does its job, it has tons of integration points, and it has been stable for many weeks. People are using it to build real stuff. > So as far as I’m concerned, Gas Town is ready. That’s why I feel it merits a 1.0.0 release. Source: https://steve-yegge.medium.com/gas-town-from-clown-show-to-v...
The neat part though, is agents are so interwoven through its operations, it can kind of power through almost any error. It's a strange-but-real form of resilience.
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If someone disagrees, it takes about 15 minutes to ask an LLM to edit the offending behavior out of the free and open-source software.
Sure. Though I’d consider that a dick move if the social contract is to contribute back.
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I think his writing is a mix of word salad and eloquent bs.
It didn’t used to be. Back in the mid 2000s I basically designed our company’s tech interview process based on a few articles he’d written about how he was doing the same at Amazon. He was a must follow for me back in the salad days of RSS. When I saw the Gastown announcement I had trouble reconciling the author and the writing.
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A few years ago, if you visit a site, your laptop grinds to a halt and the fan starts spinning like crazy, you know there is crypto mining happening on the site. (btw that was a really good showcase for WebAssembly. Too bad it's used for illegitimate purposes)
Pretty much all sites do that to my laptop these days if I don't enable uBlock Origin. Google Meet consumes 25% of each of 16 hypercores, ffs. On a 7840u. Laptop becomes a toaster.
This probably doesn't help, but I noticed that my everyday computer experience got much better after switching to an M4 Mac. The only time I heard fan was when I was running ffmpeg. Unfortunately that appears to be the solution that works.
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Bitcoin is a technology that will benefit mankind if it reaches global adoption. So presumably bitcoin mining is useful for the user as well. Doesn't matter who you think benefits because it's still theft and it's still illegal.
Mining Bitcoin is a zero sum activity. Fixing open bugs isn't.