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Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Such are the times that he feels he must say that he only attended the protest "for all of five minutes" and that he was protesting "what we saw as genocide".

He is almost ashamed of his views because of the current climate but he didn't do anything wrong, apparently.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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It's this account's only comment and was only created right before posting. It has no credibility.

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`Throwaway accounts are ok for sensitive information, but please don't create accounts routinely. HN is a community—users should have an identity that others can relate to.`

This just proves my point to discount what you say. You're basically admitting to being a pest.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

#113

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They dropped that a long time ago, at least a decade ago. Which is really an odd thing to do, what company would think that not being evil was holding it back but Google clearly did.

And we all ought to have dropped them, then. (Most of us, myself included, did not.)

No other big american company says "don't be evil", if you aren't dropping Apple and Microsoft then you it doesn't make sense to drop Google.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

#114

I simply assume that everything that travels out of my home through a wire gets tracked and stored by the government. Everywhere you go, if your phone is in your pocket, you are being tracked and stored, and available to the government. Everywhere your car goes, is tracked and stored and available to the government. BTW, the J6 protesters were all tracked and identified by their cell phone data.

So much of this was backed up by Snowden, not just in the machinations of each of the CODENAMEX operations but also in the attitude that the TLAs felt entitled to implement them in the first place.

There’s been some pushback since then, but nothing to give any confidence that CODENAMEY, CODENAMEZ, and many others have have sprung up.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

#115

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None of those countries are interested in free speech, not even this particular kind of speech, especially Germany.

They don't sack you from the street and put you in a Camp. At least not anymore. Say what you want about especially Germany, but there you don't get sued by the president for billions if he doesn't like your opinion.

Germany will literally fine you for viewpoints, including criticism of Israel. What happens if you don't pay?

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

#116

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None of those countries are interested in free speech, not even this particular kind of speech, especially Germany.

They don't sack you from the street and put you in a Camp. At least not anymore. Say what you want about especially Germany, but there you don't get sued by the president for billions if he doesn't like your opinion.

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Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Yeah, because the American ideal of our forefathers was FAFO? This is embarrassing to admit, but I miss the halcyon days when folks were still nominally pretending to be free speech warriors.

I find the idea of a non citizen protesting and causing social unrest diabolical. Most international students, (whether studying in the US or Europe or Australia or Malaysia or indeed anywhere else) understand that their visa does not grant them the same substantive rights that citizens of a country get. That’s as it should be. I couldn’t care less about a non citizen’s non existent free speech rights, nor would I ex…

There is nothing in the constitution limiting the 1st amendment to only citizens.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

#118

I still don't understand. Who gave ICE such power, and who is ordering them to do all this? To me, ICE's actions are similar to those of a private army.

You're making a mistaken thinking power is given. Quite often in the US government organizations 'just do', and it's the power of the executive, judicial, or legislative to stop them.

Unfortunately Trump is doing whatever he wants at this point and ignoring anyone that says otherwise.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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This story is the one that finally pushed me to leave google. I moved off my ~20 year old Google account and deleted everything off their services including almost a decade of Google photos. I cancelled my Google one subscription for extra space. I'm now self hosting what I can and paying proton mail for everything else. I refuse to allow a company that will hand over data at the request of an administrative warrant…

Have you run into any serious complications doing that? I'm a bit worried that I've used my google account for so long and for many things that I might accidentally lock myself out of something important without it.

I migrated away from my main email, it wasn't a Google mail but it was on the providers domain.

First I signed up with Proton Mail and added my own domain, they fit the bill for me, YMMV.

Then I did a search in my password manager and went through those accounts.

Then I just let the old account sit there for a year. Each time I got an email from something I cared about I'd log in and change mail.

It's been a year now, and I'm about to terminate the old account. All I get there now is occasional spam.

I really dreaded this, but all in all quite painless. And next time it should be easier since I now own the email domain.

edit: Forgot to mention I use Thunderbird, so old email I archived to local folders. That's part if why I ended with Proton, their IMAP bridge allows me to keep using Thunderbird.

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