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US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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post #105

This is a stupid bill, but how is this an anti-LGBTQ issue?

Anything that even slightly has to do with LGBTQ people will likely end up getting blocked from children’s eyes, while anything to do with non-LGBTQ people won’t.

I find it interesting this criticism assumes age-appropriate LGBTQ content isn’t a thing.

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

#113
post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything that even slightly has to do with LGBTQ people will likely end up getting blocked from children’s eyes, while anything to do with non-LGBTQ people won’t.

I find it interesting this criticism assumes age-appropriate LGBTQ content isn’t a thing.

Because the people who will use the law as a club to enforce their morality will assert that there is no such thing.

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

#114
post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything that even slightly has to do with LGBTQ people will likely end up getting blocked from children’s eyes, while anything to do with non-LGBTQ people won’t.

I find it interesting this criticism assumes age-appropriate LGBTQ content isn’t a thing.

Age appropriate books intended for that still get banned, so the assumption is just that the decisions about it won't be made in good faith. "X has two dads" kind of books aren't really adult, and yet...

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it interesting this criticism assumes age-appropriate LGBTQ content isn’t a thing.

Age appropriate books intended for that still get banned, so the assumption is just that the decisions about it won't be made in good faith. "X has two dads" kind of books aren't really adult, and yet...

Then sue, at that point, and win.

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

#119

Looks like compelled speech to me, both for the operating system creator and the users. I do not believe that “interstate commerce” powers negate the first amendment.

Ever seen a giant warning on cigarette ads that nicotine is addictive? Do you think half the ad is covered by the black box out of charity? Settled law decades ago. On that note, today is April 15th, tax day. The day where if you don’t provide hard numbers about your life against your will and at your own expense, prison opens as a possibility.

Cigarettes are a product that is sold. Many operating systems are free. I use several that are small projects entirely produced by hobbyists.

Even if they stack the courts with muppets who ignore the obvious first amendment angle to get this passed, I will never comply with this and I will happily help others defy it.

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

#120
post #95

According to a recent CRYPTO-GRAM issue from Schneier, it's in Meta's interest to push these regulations as their product isn't an OS. Their competition (Apple/MS/Google) are OSs though.

I'm not sure why Meta's lobbying is harped on so much when all of Big Tech benefits from this; Zuckerberg is just the fall guy. Tech companies love the idea of identity / age verification so they can target ads more effectively. My general feeling is also that privacy is a thorn in their side when it comes to integrating more deeply into people's lives.

There are also state actors at play here who would love if computing without ID became a very niche thing to do. Obviously their top line would be "fighting terrorism" and "saving the children" but in reality we've seen how these organizations (ICE, NSA, etc.) abuse their power and spy on people without warrants.

tl;dr: there is much more at play here than Facebooks interests alone.

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