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Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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I'm grandfathered to get unlimited updates, though if they rugpull on that the drives are just formatted as XFS. It'd be a hassle to move to something like TrueNAS, but I could do it even if the OS stopped working. Even if Lime Technology completely disappear one day and make every Unraid USB stick self destruct, I'll still have physical access to the data. Cloud services, like everything else in control of rent seek…

> You didn't frame your initial post around the market of grandmas, your rhetoric was targeted to those reading your post; "How much of your personal data", "do you still have your email". Uh... that's wildly and seemingly deliberately mischaracterizing what I wrote. Seriously? The very next sentence falsifies your interpretation, quite explicitly. Why would you cherry pick like that?

You were talking to an audience of tech nerds, as was the original blog post we're all discussing. All of your counter-arguments in you original post were appeals to that base and merely suggesting that Gmail users outside of the Hacker News sphere exist doesn't really change that.

Given that, bringing up the needs of grandma and her family photos is a non-sequitur. We clearly aren't talking about that, more considering the wider effects of a tech industry having centralized control of and gating access to customer data and processing and the ways that has caused a lot of exploitation and enshittification.

But clearly you're avoiding talking about any of that, which is why the only thing in my post you engaged with is a bunch of handwringing that I misrepresented something you said (I didn't).

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

#112
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You didn't frame your initial post around the market of grandmas, your rhetoric was targeted to those reading your post; "How much of your personal data", "do you still have your email". Uh... that's wildly and seemingly deliberately mischaracterizing what I wrote. Seriously? The very next sentence falsifies your interpretation, quite explicitly. Why would you cherry pick like that?

You were talking to an audience of tech nerds, as was the original blog post we're all discussing. All of your counter-arguments in you original post were appeals to that base and merely suggesting that Gmail users outside of the Hacker News sphere exist doesn't really change that. Given that, bringing up the needs of grandma and her family photos is a non-sequitur. We clearly aren't talking about that, more consider…

> We clearly aren't talking about that

You aren't. I was. Go. Read. What. I. Wrote.

Strawmanning is bad form and bad faith. Please don't do it.

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

#113
post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You were talking to an audience of tech nerds, as was the original blog post we're all discussing. All of your counter-arguments in you original post were appeals to that base and merely suggesting that Gmail users outside of the Hacker News sphere exist doesn't really change that. Given that, bringing up the needs of grandma and her family photos is a non-sequitur. We clearly aren't talking about that, more consider…

> We clearly aren't talking about that You aren't. I was. Go. Read. What. I. Wrote. Strawmanning is bad form and bad faith. Please don't do it.

I don't think I was and I think that you're focusing so strongly on a perceived strawman rather than the actual topic is an admission that you're just projecting.

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah I'm sure Jason is just fine with that.

Yes, I've taken a long walk and spoken with my team and I'm emotionally fine with the situation.

Yes, but you don't represent 99% of people. Which is why your blog post was hilariously wrong.
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