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"Can we do X, Y, Z?" Yes? Or maybe later? It's so annoying. No means no, not "pester me later"!
Consent used to be "Yes" or "No" now it's "Yes" or "I'll give in later"
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Michigan 'digital age' bills pulled after privacy concerns raised
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Re: Michigan 'digital age' bills pulled after privacy concerns raised
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's an international coordinated effort to undermine every single citizen's privacy, an agenda being pushed for years, again and again in every country and state, by a coalition including Google, Facebook, Microsoft, etc., corporations that profit greatly from mandatory identity verification online. It's only a matter of time until they buy out enough politicians to push it through and force future generations to li…
> undermine every single citizen's privacy Well, we might as well be realistic - none of us have had any privacy for a very, very long time. It's just that our governments can't quite yet use it against us the way they'd like to without revealing the scope. The goal here is really just to add some additional plausibility when our privacy _is_ violated.
Sun On Privacy : Get Over It (1999) https://web.archive.org/web/20171008211256/https://www.wired...
Re: Michigan 'digital age' bills pulled after privacy concerns raised
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Physical stores look at your id, they don't take a copy. Same for home delivery of alcohol at least in the UK.
They may or may not. Just like online services may or may not make a copy. That is besides the point - the point is they verify age because it's already illegal to distribute porn to minors.
No, the do not make a copy and that specifically is the point I am making. The guy looking at my id while standing in my porch is doing something ephemeral.
Re: Michigan 'digital age' bills pulled after privacy concerns raised
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's an international coordinated effort to undermine every single citizen's privacy, an agenda being pushed for years, again and again in every country and state, by a coalition including Google, Facebook, Microsoft, etc., corporations that profit greatly from mandatory identity verification online. It's only a matter of time until they buy out enough politicians to push it through and force future generations to li…
That coordinated effort also includes the buying up of US media sources by billionaires and gigacorps to control the content of not just news sources and social forums, but every electronic window we have onto the world. Remember, the panopticon observed people who were in a prison.
The effort significantly predates the recent changes in US media ownership. I would actually argue that the ownership change is mostly orthogonal to the ongoing trend of centralization and top-down manipulation of digital information sources.
A shift change of the prison guards more than a material change to the prison.
Re: Michigan 'digital age' bills pulled after privacy concerns raised
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I love seeing this, and love seeing regulations working exactly as wanted! What I see is basically "We're unable to serve this website without compromising your privacy, so instead of pretending or giving you a choice, we give you this message so you can turn around".
What does GDPR get you that browser settings and an extension don't? I'm genuinely curious how random websites refusing to serve content / spamming cookie banners is a good thing? The data download and removal side of GDPR seems useful for more "entrenched" use cases where you have an account and a long history on a service but... fly-by website visits should not be this heavily regulated. Blocking cookies and script…
There's also your IP address. No browser setting or extension is going to hide it. There are of course VPNs and proxies, but they're different things.
Re: Michigan 'digital age' bills pulled after privacy concerns raised
#116> The right to opt out of its sale, and Why the right to opt-out, instead of requiring sale of data to be opt-in? I’m not sure how this stuff happens on the backend, but if I sign up for something and there is an opt-out page buried somewhere, I assume they’ve already sold my data by the time I can get to the opt-out page. I still make a best effort, but once it’s sold, it’s really too late. There needs to be an opti…
This annoys me with Apple devices, iCloud and all it's related backups of..well everything are on by default and it doesn't ask at any point in the setup of the device. You have to then go into settings -> icloud and disable the main one and then like 30 individual ones. There should be a big toggle at the top that says "Disable All Cloud Backups" they can feel free to throw in a warning.
This is just... not true? I'm curious what you mean, because iCloud cannot be on by default since it requires you to set up an iCloud account. You're asked to sign into iCloud during device setup, which you can decline.
Do you mean that, after consenting to and signing into iCloud, all of iCloud's feature are enabled by default?
Re: Michigan 'digital age' bills pulled after privacy concerns raised
#117What's with the bipartisan push for these bills all of a sudden?
I think part of it is because many affluent parents have children with major mental health issues: anxiety, depression, bipolar, thoughts of self-harm, etc. and many of these parents blame social media. The affluent have way more sway over policymaking, and since social media seems easier to control that other vices, they're exerting their control.
The suicide rate in Palo Alto, for instance, was so high that the CDC investigated it (around 2016). The situation hasn't improved much since then. https://elestoque.org/2025/12/07/opinion/community-members-t...
Another example: in the California Assembly hearings for AB 1043 (their age verification bill), one mom offered testimony in support by saying it was social media that enticed her daughter into developing anorexia.
Re: Michigan 'digital age' bills pulled after privacy concerns raised
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes so the informed choice they made was "block gdpr countries" vs "be transparent about our use of personal data". Every site that gdpr-blocks itself is saying that they intend to extract value from your data and they don't want to tell you how.
No, it can also be saying "I simply have too many other things to do than worry about what the correct data retention or ban appeal or DSA statement of reasons requirement or DSA statement of reasons transparency DB API or UK Ofcom age verification requirements or..." Sometimes if you're just one person and the EU isn't a core market and you are a small business or non-profit, it's easier to just say, ok you know wha…
The signal remains the same:
"Will you sell my data?"
"This interview is over. (I'm very busy.)"
Re: Michigan 'digital age' bills pulled after privacy concerns raised
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
> threads about children and social media or short form video will draw a lot of comments supporting harsh age restrictions I think there should be age restrictions. I prefer to do it in a privacy-preserving way. But I’m also not happy about conditioning the former on the existence of the latter.
Outside of better parental controls and restricting accounts based on self declared age, there isn't a way to perform age verification anonymously or privately.
> isn't a way to perform age verification anonymously or privately
Totally, no. Better than having users upload IDs with no use restrictions on the social-media companies? Yes. The harms justify, in my opinion and the opinion of lots of Americans (and importantly, those able and willing to call their electeds), a little bit of privacy encroachment for using a totally-voluntary product.
Re: Michigan 'digital age' bills pulled after privacy concerns raised
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Consent used to be "Yes" or "No" now it's "Yes" or "I'll give in later"
There's a reason the tech industry is said to be rapey. Such fundamental misunderstandings of consent likely do not ultimately stop at the digital.
Woman in tech (rare here, I know) and I can confirm, they don't stop at digital