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447 TB/cm² at zero retention energy – atomic-scale memory on fluorographane

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Re: 447 TB/cm² at zero retention energy – atomic-scale memory on fluorographane

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Post by atoav »

nurettin wrote: post #90
nine_k wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It took 15 if not 20 years to commercialize even such obvious, low-tech thing as radio telegraph, which can literally be built form common house supplies. It happened about 60 years after Maxwell predicted the electromagnetic waves theoretically. Red LEDs were invented / discovered in 1920s, became commercially successful as indicators in 1960s. Optical fibers were invented in 1920s or so, became a commercial success…

It doesn't take long to commercialize feasible new tech in this day and age. If someone invented an electromagnetic hovercar tomorrow, it will be available for sale next week and regulations will follow after.

What advantage would hovering have?

Re: 447 TB/cm² at zero retention energy – atomic-scale memory on fluorographane

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Post by noosphr »

nurettin wrote: post #90
nine_k wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It took 15 if not 20 years to commercialize even such obvious, low-tech thing as radio telegraph, which can literally be built form common house supplies. It happened about 60 years after Maxwell predicted the electromagnetic waves theoretically. Red LEDs were invented / discovered in 1920s, became commercially successful as indicators in 1960s. Optical fibers were invented in 1920s or so, became a commercial success…

It doesn't take long to commercialize feasible new tech in this day and age. If someone invented an electromagnetic hovercar tomorrow, it will be available for sale next week and regulations will follow after.

The only technologies that are commercialised quickly today are the ones that can be commercialised quickly. The ones that can't won't be for decades yet.

In short, if a tech takes 40 years to be commercialised it would have been invented some time in the 80s.

Re: 447 TB/cm² at zero retention energy – atomic-scale memory on fluorographane

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Post by SubiculumCode »

bastawhiz wrote: post #60

Every year or so there's a new article about some new spectacular storage medium. Crystals, graphene, lasers, quartz, holograms, whatever. It never materializes. Demonstrating this stuff is possible isn't the hard part, it seems. Productionizing it is. You have to have exceedingly fast read and write speeds: who cares if it can store an exabyte if it takes all month to read it, or if you produce data faster than you…

Every article like this there is someone that points this out. Not hard to do but sure is reliable.

Re: 447 TB/cm² at zero retention energy – atomic-scale memory on fluorographane

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Post by mastermage »

atoav wrote: post #111
nurettin wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't take long to commercialize feasible new tech in this day and age. If someone invented an electromagnetic hovercar tomorrow, it will be available for sale next week and regulations will follow after.

What advantage would hovering have?

No Street Infrastructure needeed to drive anywhere (kinda).

Re: 447 TB/cm² at zero retention energy – atomic-scale memory on fluorographane

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Post by mastermage »

iliatoli wrote: post #19
ricardobeat wrote: post #15

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That’s amazing. Do you have a home lab with an atomic microscope where you do your research? And what’s the reason for going solo vs a research university, where I assume this type of research could be significantly sped up?

No lab — the work is computational. All calculations run on a Dell Precision workstation with ORCA (quantum chemistry) software. An experimental collaborator is now preparing the C-AFM validation. The solo approach is a consequence of the work spanning multiple fields that don't share a single department.

Couldn't you potentially get some smaller grants from each of the fields? Or is that too much paperwork. It always seems so much work to get those grants.

Re: 447 TB/cm² at zero retention energy – atomic-scale memory on fluorographane

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Post by Filligree »

mastermage wrote: post #115
iliatoli wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No lab — the work is computational. All calculations run on a Dell Precision workstation with ORCA (quantum chemistry) software. An experimental collaborator is now preparing the C-AFM validation. The solo approach is a consequence of the work spanning multiple fields that don't share a single department.

Couldn't you potentially get some smaller grants from each of the fields? Or is that too much paperwork. It always seems so much work to get those grants.

Getting a grant from a single field is already a full-time job; the research typically gets done as overtime.

Re: 447 TB/cm² at zero retention energy – atomic-scale memory on fluorographane

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Post by antonvs »

nurettin wrote: post #90
nine_k wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It took 15 if not 20 years to commercialize even such obvious, low-tech thing as radio telegraph, which can literally be built form common house supplies. It happened about 60 years after Maxwell predicted the electromagnetic waves theoretically. Red LEDs were invented / discovered in 1920s, became commercially successful as indicators in 1960s. Optical fibers were invented in 1920s or so, became a commercial success…

It doesn't take long to commercialize feasible new tech in this day and age. If someone invented an electromagnetic hovercar tomorrow, it will be available for sale next week and regulations will follow after.

> It doesn't take long to commercialize feasible new tech

“Feasible” is doing some heavy lifting there. The whole point of the comment you replied to is that it can take a long time for some new physical technique to become commercially feasible.

Re: 447 TB/cm² at zero retention energy – atomic-scale memory on fluorographane

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Post by Keyframe »

atoav wrote: post #111
nurettin wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't take long to commercialize feasible new tech in this day and age. If someone invented an electromagnetic hovercar tomorrow, it will be available for sale next week and regulations will follow after.

What advantage would hovering have?

smoother ride, no need for wheels so no road friction and fewer parts that wear, no need for shock absorbers as well, no need for roads clean of snow and ice which would make them both more practical and safer.. if we're talking star trek hovering, not rotor blade / hovercraft noisy shit with rotating parts that waste a ton of energy.

Re: 447 TB/cm² at zero retention energy – atomic-scale memory on fluorographane

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Post by antonvs »

TOMDM wrote: post #102
nurettin wrote: post #90

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It doesn't take long to commercialize feasible new tech in this day and age. If someone invented an electromagnetic hovercar tomorrow, it will be available for sale next week and regulations will follow after.

Waymo has cars that drive themselves and are dramatically safer than people in most conditions and yet they're only in select cities. Do you just think Google hates money, or does this only work for hover cars

> Waymo has cars that drive themselves

With the help of “remote assistance”, that is. Which is probably one of the reasons for the limited rollout.

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