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Re: ChatGPT Pro now starts at $100/month

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Post by dweekly » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 7:08 PM UTC

antirez wrote: post #34

Very good move. In my experience, for system programming at least, GPT 5.4 xhigh is vastly superior to Claude Opus 4.6 max effort. I ran many brutal tests, including reconstructing for QEMU the SCSI controller (not longer accessible) of a SVSY UNIX of the early 90s used in a 386. Side by side, always re-mirroring the source trees each time one did a breakthrough in the implementation. Well, GPT 5.4 single handed did…

GPT 5.4 is the surly physics PhD post-doc who slowly and angrily sits in a basement to write brilliant, undocumented, uncommented code that encapsulates a breakthrough algorithm.

Opus 4.6 is the L5 new hire SWE keen to prove their chops and quickly turn out totally reasonable code with putatively defensible reasons for doing it that way (that are sometimes tragically wrong) and then catch an after-work yoga class with you.

Re: ChatGPT Pro now starts at $100/month

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Post by bossyTeacher » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 7:09 PM UTC

wolttam wrote: post #100

bossyTeacher wrote: post #95

It really feels like LLMs will mostly become tools for tech workers rather than the kind of civilization-level transformation sama has been peddling. Every single comment here seems to confirm the above.

This is kind of the goldilocks zone for LLMs right now. I wouldn't mistake this for any kind of capability plateau. There is a massive push towards making transformers the engine of humanoid (and other kinds of) robotics, we just haven't reached the hype moment for those yet.

> I wouldn't mistake this for any kind of capability plateau. There is a massive push towards making transformers the engine of humanoid (and other kinds of) robotics, we just haven't reached the hype moment for those yet.

Problem is that the fuel to get this train going relies on investors money. Investors aren't going to be happy with the quote I took from your message.

And that's the real bet really, can the industry turn the spark into fire before the investor money runs out?

Re: ChatGPT Pro now starts at $100/month

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Post by MattGaiser » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 7:09 PM UTC

mrdependable wrote: post #107

It's interesting seeing all the ChatGPT users in this thread, knowing what we know about OpenAI. Either they don't care about what OpenAI does, don't know their reputation, or feel like their use is too insignificant to matter.

What has the tech industry ever resisted on moral or reputational grounds?

Re: ChatGPT Pro now starts at $100/month

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Post by sourcecodeplz » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 7:11 PM UTC

I like that they kept limited access to Codex even on free tier.

LE: Someone said this is how the tiers are now counted:

"Essentially if old plus is 1x then new limits are: Plus - 0.3x Pro $100 - 1.5x Pro $200 - 6x (unchanged)"

Re: ChatGPT Pro now starts at $100/month

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Post by WithinReason » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 7:13 PM UTC

giwook wrote: post #37

satvikpendem wrote: post #16

The era of subsidization is over, it seems. For my money, on the code side at least, GitHub Copilot on VSCode is still the most cost effective option, 10 bucks for 300 requests gets me all I need, especially when I use OpenAI models which are counted as 1x vs Opus which is 3x. I've stopped using all other tools like Claude Code etc.

I use both GH Copilot as well as CC extensively and it does seem more economical, though I wonder how long this will last as I imagine Github has also been subsidizing LLM usage extensively. FWIW it feels like GH Copilot is a cheaper version of OpenRouter but with trade-offs like being locked into VSCode and the Microsoft ecosystem overall. I already use VSCode though and otherwise I don't see much downside to using…

You can use copilot models from OpenCode:

https://github.blog/changelog/2026-01-16-github-copilot-now-...

Re: ChatGPT Pro now starts at $100/month

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Post by SunshineTheCat » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 7:14 PM UTC

antirez wrote: post #34

Very good move. In my experience, for system programming at least, GPT 5.4 xhigh is vastly superior to Claude Opus 4.6 max effort. I ran many brutal tests, including reconstructing for QEMU the SCSI controller (not longer accessible) of a SVSY UNIX of the early 90s used in a 386. Side by side, always re-mirroring the source trees each time one did a breakthrough in the implementation. Well, GPT 5.4 single handed did…

1000%. I have been running claude's work through codex for about a week now and it's insane the number of mistakes it catches. Not really sure why I've been doing this, just interesting to watch I guess.

Not to mention a billion times more usage than you get with claude, dollar for dollar.

Re: ChatGPT Pro now starts at $100/month

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Post by bossyTeacher » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 7:15 PM UTC

sassymuffinz wrote: post #39

satvikpendem wrote: post #16

The era of subsidization is over, it seems. For my money, on the code side at least, GitHub Copilot on VSCode is still the most cost effective option, 10 bucks for 300 requests gets me all I need, especially when I use OpenAI models which are counted as 1x vs Opus which is 3x. I've stopped using all other tools like Claude Code etc.

I tried Claude Code for a week straight recently to see what all the hype was about and while it pumped out a bunch of reasonable looking code and features I ended up feeling completely disconnected from my codebase and uncomfortable. Cancelled the plan I had with them and happily went back to just coding like normal in VSCode with occasional dips into Copilot when a need arose or for rubber ducking and planning. Fee…

I think most people doing what is now called agentic development, aren't following most established dev methodologies and are to a great extent playing it by vibe.

The codebase disconnect is real.

We are like blue collar workers that need to hit the gym to maintain the body that our cavemen ancestors could maintain by doing their daily duties.

Codebase gym sessions might become a thing.

Re: ChatGPT Pro now starts at $100/month

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Post by dyauspitr » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 7:15 PM UTC

taoh wrote: post #109

jstummbillig wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not the "only" thing: You get access to GPT-5.4 pro.

Does GPT-5.4 pro give a much better result in some circumstances? What're their typical uses in your experience?

If you want it to deeply research something pro is great. I had a problem I just couldn’t find with my oven so I gave it a lot of information and it went off on its own for about 2 hours and then gave me what I needed to fix the problem (fan was turning off too quickly which was causing the panel to overheat). I have no idea how it figured it out and I couldn’t find anything after hours of googling so it was very impressive. I even went and googled for it once I knew what the problem was and I still couldn’t find the solution that it came up with.

Re: ChatGPT Pro now starts at $100/month

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Post by dude250711 » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 7:17 PM UTC

bossyTeacher wrote: post #95

It really feels like LLMs will mostly become tools for tech workers rather than the kind of civilization-level transformation sama has been peddling. Every single comment here seems to confirm the above.

I have heard a CTO had a major success building a side project over a weekend.

Re: ChatGPT Pro now starts at $100/month

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Post by KellyCriterion » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 7:17 PM UTC

satvikpendem wrote: post #16

The era of subsidization is over, it seems. For my money, on the code side at least, GitHub Copilot on VSCode is still the most cost effective option, 10 bucks for 300 requests gets me all I need, especially when I use OpenAI models which are counted as 1x vs Opus which is 3x. I've stopped using all other tools like Claude Code etc.

OT:

In general I view VS Code and VS.NET Community + SQL Server free universe as the most effective option :) I think these products are great actually.