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#111
> In May, the three of us ended up at Peter's flat in Vienna and built our first vibe slopped project together: VibeTunnel.

May be overthinking this but I'm geniunely curious how that was done practically speaking? Standard git branch and merge or everyone sitting around deciding what prompt to write?

Re: I've sold out

#112
post #106

Eventually, everyone has a "price" or a "figure" they are thinking about in their heads. That's fine and I don't think Mario made any promises here about Pi. However, the worst ones are the ones who preach to others about never selling out whilst telling others that they are there for the long-term publicly, but will privately sell out the minute the offer is greater and exclusive to them. The point here is not make…

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#113
pi is great and made popular some things that are really valuable, that hopefully spread to more projects (arbitrary forking with /tree, system prompt transparency and control). i was hoping to use it on a few projects but needed something to embed, and it didn't quite fit the bill. ended up building https://github.com/zackham/aloop which i am using in coordination with https://stepwise.run/ - reach if you're interested, both under active dev and deployed in systems doing real work.

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#114
post #77

Context: Mario Zechner is the creator of the pi coding harness which powers OpenClaw. OpenClaw is made by Peter Steinberger, a friend of Mario Zechner. Armin is another friend who made public that OpenClaw is based on pi. Pi itself is a minimalist coding harness with a tiny 1500 token system message and only read, edit and bash as tools. I only discovered it a few weeks ago and it is surprisingly powerful with a loca…

> who made public that OpenClaw is based on pi. I haven't kept up with the various claw stuff, but isn't openclaw the one under MIT on github? What does "made public" mean in this context?

"Write a blog post about the fact and make it well known"

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#115
post #77

Context: Mario Zechner is the creator of the pi coding harness which powers OpenClaw. OpenClaw is made by Peter Steinberger, a friend of Mario Zechner. Armin is another friend who made public that OpenClaw is based on pi. Pi itself is a minimalist coding harness with a tiny 1500 token system message and only read, edit and bash as tools. I only discovered it a few weeks ago and it is surprisingly powerful with a loca…

> who made public that OpenClaw is based on pi. I haven't kept up with the various claw stuff, but isn't openclaw the one under MIT on github? What does "made public" mean in this context?

He wrote a blog post about it

https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/1/31/pi/

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#116
post #46

This is so disappointing. Finally we had a fantastic, fully OSS, non-profit harness. Very extensible, well-made, minimal, untainted. None of the baggage of OpenCode both in terms of codebase as well as its.. "passionate" leadership, to put it mildly. > Earendil is a public benefit corporation Ah, so like OpenAI then. > But I've also learned what I do not want. I do not want to build my own company around pi. We have…

>> Earendil is a public benefit corporation

>Ah, so like OpenAI then.

What kind of reasoning is this? The sort that can respond to.

"I'm a doctor"

With

"Ah, like Harold Shipman"

How is this sort of framing good for anyone?

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#117
post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know much about the factors that determine why one AI coding harness is better than others. Is it system prompts? Or just personal preference in terms of the UX and there isn't actually a better output between using CC or Pi? So what makes Pi better than CC? Is it better than OpenCode?

CC is a steaming pile of vibe-coded bloat. If that rocks your boat, go knock yourself out. Is it better than OpenCode? It's certainly much smaller and doesn't have a client-server architecture - already that is a big win.

OpenCode is pretty terrible imo. Not very privacy minded.

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#118

I read most of the post, went to the linked project and still don't have an idea what this is about.

Pi is a coding agent harness, like Claude Code, but significantly better and more elegant. Here is a good post describing it: https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/1/31/pi/ I switched a few months ago and have not looked back. Unfortunately Anthropic blocked access from Claude Subscription users today, but that's a different story.

I've been using oh-my-pi, for the simple (and possibly naive/stubborn) reason that it doesn't try to get me to install it as global npm dependency in /usr.

I am not a web developer, I don't need npm and I don't want it clobbering my /usr (which is immutable on many modern distro's anyway). Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the project to me.

oh-my-pi's installer installs a bun bundled binary in my users .local folder. That's much more user-friendly.

Re: I've sold out

#119
post #46

This is so disappointing. Finally we had a fantastic, fully OSS, non-profit harness. Very extensible, well-made, minimal, untainted. None of the baggage of OpenCode both in terms of codebase as well as its.. "passionate" leadership, to put it mildly. > Earendil is a public benefit corporation Ah, so like OpenAI then. > But I've also learned what I do not want. I do not want to build my own company around pi. We have…

> So this is the only part that really answers the "why" - you want to earn a living from working on Pi, and presumably (?) believe you can't achieve that with OSS. I think you're wrong, and belong to the 0.001% of OSS projects that can earn a very nice living from working on Pi without taking this step.

He already has a GitHub sponsorship with lots of sponsors himself. The problem is they get to set the price and the minimum is at least $1. This tells me that he believes he is not earning enough from OSS sponsors.

So with that, how do you even start with answering this:

> It also includes commercialization to feed the team.

The author knows that in his case, OSS does not pay the bills and certainly won't pay for his staff.

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