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Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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Post by dylan604 »

PaulKeeble wrote: post #44
xattt wrote: post #2

Hopefully, the footage is better than the missed pan up at lift-off, and showing spectators at the time of booster separation. I understand funding cuts and all, but this is a once-in-a-generation moment and it’s filmed with no apparent effort whatsoever.

They missed it pulling off the pad, they then had a picture of the plume, the wide shot off the pad was quite a bit too late also, then they missed the separation of the boosters and the upper stage separation. Honestly it looks like they intentionally missed every high risk procedure intentionally and cut back a few seconds after it had succeeded.You don't make this many mistakes one after the other accidentally, it…

Clearly, you've never worked with a live video crew. If they have no practice, it's amazing how bad you can appear with a lack of appreciation of how fast things move. You also have to remember the camera/operator are really far away with a very large zoom. Things leave your field a view much faster than anticipated. After that, any correction becomes over corrections again because of the zoom factor. Also, I would not be surprised if people were watching IRL as much as their screens/viewfinders.

I've seen it in sports where someone just not up to speed is always behind the play and the center of action is just out of frame. At that point, you zoom out some to recenter and then zoom back in. Or the director cuts away and lets you catch up. But that's assuming competency up the chain.

Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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Post by ck2 »

ddtaylor wrote: post #95
ck2 wrote: post #71

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if you haven't seen the footage from someone in a passenger jet nearby, it rocks https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1sagcc1 https://v.redd.it/l11tehzzvrsg1/CMAF_720.mp4 Think about how much technology evolved to create that scene, to fly nearby and being used to take that video, wow

You can't really see anything in that video. The craft is very small on screen.

I suppose zoom would have some awe factor

But it's awesome enough as is

a 100 meter tall spaceship nearly 6 million pounds carrying nearly a million gallons of fuel for nearly 10 million pounds of thrust for JUST eight minutes

all that to escape Earth's mighty gravity well

pretty freaking amazing to watch even at that distance

Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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Post by NikolaNovak »

the_af wrote: post #77
PaulKeeble wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They missed it pulling off the pad, they then had a picture of the plume, the wide shot off the pad was quite a bit too late also, then they missed the separation of the boosters and the upper stage separation. Honestly it looks like they intentionally missed every high risk procedure intentionally and cut back a few seconds after it had succeeded.You don't make this many mistakes one after the other accidentally, it…

Agreed. There was high quality alternative streaming from other sources, how come NASA couldn't get their shit together? The spectacle is important for public support! I still don't understand why they didn't show the final 10 seconds countdown, basically the most iconic moment of any launch. They literally hid the clock! I was hoping to count it down with my family. If they were scared of accidents they could have s…

What is the current best way to watch the take off? I was out of town and want to watch it with family this weekend in fake/pretend real time, so would love a good YouTube or otherwise source :)

Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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Post by dylan604 »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #63
xattt wrote: post #2

Hopefully, the footage is better than the missed pan up at lift-off, and showing spectators at the time of booster separation. I understand funding cuts and all, but this is a once-in-a-generation moment and it’s filmed with no apparent effort whatsoever.

> missed pan up at lift-off Tilt up. Pan is from side-to-side, and the word comes from "panorama".

Yeah, but if you've got your phone in portrait mode for the socials, you are panning relative to the the landscape orientation.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

PunchyHamster wrote: post #102
TeMPOraL wrote: post #47

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Indeed. This has been my gripe since first SpaceX booster landing attempts - I understand that "livestream from an IMAX camera" may be very low at the list of priorities for space missions, but... it shouldn't. Even if recovered after the fact, having a solid, high-quality footage from flight and orbit would make a huge impact on the publicity goals they're all explicitly trying to achieve. There's a shortage of good…

> at this point, a 4k/60FPS recording released in public domain would easily redefine how space scenes look in movies, TV and video games in the next decade[0]. no? why you think it would ? We know how it looks like already

Knowing is one thing, seeing is another. Art - and general population - is more receptive to the latter.

Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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Post by themafia »

meatloaf_man wrote: post #66
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #42

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Artemis has a budget of over 90 billion dollars, it's more than 4 billion for that Artemis II launch (as estimated by NASA, possibly more because they don't even know exactly how much they're spending). For that price one might reasonably expect a couple of quality cameras for the public to be able to view what their money was spent on. For comparison, a SpaceX ISS resupply mission costs NASA ~$150 million. While tha…

>For comparison, a SpaceX ISS resupply mission costs NASA ~$150 million. While that's a very different rocket and mission, that still doesn't account for a 26x higher price! With what authority do you say this? Do you have any idea how much closer the ISS is than the moon??

> Do you have any idea how much closer the ISS is than the moon??

Distance isn't the factor. Useful payload to destination and required Delta V are. Leaving earth is 10 km/s. TLI is 4 km/s.

Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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Post by Neywiny »

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #83
meatloaf_man wrote: post #66

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>For comparison, a SpaceX ISS resupply mission costs NASA ~$150 million. While that's a very different rocket and mission, that still doesn't account for a 26x higher price! With what authority do you say this? Do you have any idea how much closer the ISS is than the moon??

Apollo 11 (which included actually landing on the Moon for the first time in human history!) cost only $355 million* in 1969. That's a little over 3 billion in 2025 dollars. How has a comperatively "simple" flyby become so expensive? You could also look at the same ISS mission with another contractor: Boeing got paid twice as much and then failed to bring the astronauts back in Starliner. So obviously NASA is overpay…

You should compare against Apollo 9, which was 96% as expensive as 11 and much closer in mission profile. Then you don't need to worry about comparisons on simple flyby vs full landing

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Post by bentt »

xattt wrote: post #2

Hopefully, the footage is better than the missed pan up at lift-off, and showing spectators at the time of booster separation. I understand funding cuts and all, but this is a once-in-a-generation moment and it’s filmed with no apparent effort whatsoever.

It took SpaceX a number of goes to get their camerawork and streaming right. NASA just hasn’t done this frequently enough.

Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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Post by conorcleary »

the_af wrote: post #78
merrychristmas1 wrote: post #74

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No, after talking to NASA people, this is just incompetence.

How on earth could they skip streaming the final 10 seconds countdown? That's beyond incompetence.

queue the new moon hoax theory
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