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> (One is just the observation that multiple accounts were banned, which is not actually an inconsistency? Just something you don't find likely?) I think you misunderstood. In one post they said all accounts were banned including their recovery accounts. They also said they were forced to create a new account on a different service just to have email. In another comment they said Google sent them an email saying thei…
The story as OP tells it is that they appealed the ban, and the ban was upheld. Logically, they appealed the ban from an email address they had access to. I don't know how you get from 'all of their Google accounts were banned' to 'they had no possible way to send and receive email whatsoever'. > These Reddit stories always get some people invested in the story before the inconsistencies show up. You have to read the…
If you go into Reddit believing all of the posts by default and forgiving inconsistencies you’re going to be duped by a lot of fake stories.
I think it’s interesting that someone posted a “my account just got busted for accidental CSAM” and nobody is concerned about the impending law enforcement consequences? Only about email access? If this really happened then it would be referred to law enforcement because companies don’t handle CSAM as internal matters that go through their appeals process. They get escalated to law enforcement.
Is this an AI post? The last few times something mind-blowing was shared from Reddit, it was later found to be fake.
I think it’s human written but there are details of the story that are self-contradicting, like receiving an email explaining why all of the accounts have been banned after all of their email accounts were banned. Including recovery accounts.
It was definitely fake though and it looks like the mods finally realized that (after deleting comments for calling out that it was fake)
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> but then later they received an email explaining the reason for the ban Presumably this was in response to an appeal, which would have required an email, which would obviously have been a non-Google email given the wider context? I'm not seeing the inconsistency.
I think you’re stretching. You can’t just send an email to Google from a new email address claiming you were associated with an unrelated Google account and then receive information about that account.
They also have access to easy means of verification - phone numbers that are linked to the account, etc. Hell, you could just call Google from your own Google Fi number, just as one example.
I think you're hanging your hat on a pretty absurd theory, whereby it becomes factually impossible to contact Google ever again if they freeze your email, and it's prima facie evidence that you're lying if you claim to have done so.
God, this is a real nightmare. I'm pretty reticent to rush to regulation, but I really don't know what other solution is even possible here. The average person cannot realistically exist in a digital vacuum, self-hosting their entire online world. Google should not be able to do this to them. No one should have to rely on trying to whip up public mobs on Reddit or HN to get Google to give them access to their own fre…
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The story as OP tells it is that they appealed the ban, and the ban was upheld. Logically, they appealed the ban from an email address they had access to. I don't know how you get from 'all of their Google accounts were banned' to 'they had no possible way to send and receive email whatsoever'. > These Reddit stories always get some people invested in the story before the inconsistencies show up. You have to read the…
The mods of that subreddit appear to have come to the same conclusion. If you go into Reddit believing all of the posts by default and forgiving inconsistencies you’re going to be duped by a lot of fake stories. I think it’s interesting that someone posted a “my account just got busted for accidental CSAM” and nobody is concerned about the impending law enforcement consequences? Only about email access? If this reall…
There's just an awful lot of armchair theorising in your posts, and a lot of it doesn't sound like it's backed by much actual experience. If I'm being honest, you sound very young to me. Which I do not intend as a slight at all, youth is great, but it does sort of explain your deep familiarity with Reddit and your absolutely unshakable confidence in your own takes.
The thing is, even if you do turn out to be right - which is entirely possible - there's a big difference between (a) following the clues to reach a conclusion, and (b) reaching a conclusion and then gathering up some factoids to support it. The former is good science, the latter is high school debating. The latter is very easy to spot, and that's why I find your argument unconvincing. It would have been possible to make a much more convincing one, but it would have required a humbler approach.
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I think you’re stretching. You can’t just send an email to Google from a new email address claiming you were associated with an unrelated Google account and then receive information about that account.
Who said it's a new email? Most people have preexisting alternative emails - work emails, college emails, etc. I personally have a non-Google email in the recovery email list, and I don't think that's uncommon. They also have access to easy means of verification - phone numbers that are linked to the account, etc. Hell, you could just call Google from your own Google Fi number, just as one example. I think you're han…
The person who posted the story did!
Their comments had a whole second plot line about how all of their email accounts were closed so they had to create a ProtonMail account to sign up for new websites but websites weren’t accepting it:
> My daughter was having a breakdown in Scotland because her dissertation is due in 7 weeks. I tried to book a flight to see her and realised I couldn't do that without an email address.
> I had to create a Proton Mail account and almost no websites believe that it's genuine and block me from signing up.
Another inconsistency is that Protonmail actually locks new accounts that immediately try to sign up for popular external services, which is something they would have discovered if they tried what they said.
I know you’re desperate for reasons to believe the deleted Reddit story and discredit me, but you’re the one coming up with explanations that disagree with the story posted. I’m using the information the person claimed, not my own assumptions
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Who said it's a new email? Most people have preexisting alternative emails - work emails, college emails, etc. I personally have a non-Google email in the recovery email list, and I don't think that's uncommon. They also have access to easy means of verification - phone numbers that are linked to the account, etc. Hell, you could just call Google from your own Google Fi number, just as one example. I think you're han…
> Who said it's a new email? The person who posted the story did! Their comments had a whole second plot line about how all of their email accounts were closed so they had to create a ProtonMail account to sign up for new websites but websites weren’t accepting it: > My daughter was having a breakdown in Scotland because her dissertation is due in 7 weeks. I tried to book a flight to see her and realised I couldn't d…
I honestly don't even know who you are, or really care about your credibility at all, so I can't imagine why I'd want to 'discredit you'. If you're confident in your take, that's great!
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> I would never do business with Google. All I use from them is search. That's it. Nothing else. Given that's their main business and they are likely to graveyard whatever domain penny business you've got burnt by anyway, you're still doing a lot of business with them
But it's the kind of business, where recourse is not needed
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No, the root problem is you put all the eggs in one basket ignoring the folk wisdom that predates anything digital > Don't keep anything in a cloud service that you couldn't live with losing, unless you keep a local backup. Translated: so do keep everything in a cloud service, just backup it at a fraction of the effort with / insecurity / unreliability / unavailability of your own computer
Yes, and, importantly, have a plan to be able to log in to and reset your passwords through e-mail, on all your other services, if you suddenly lose you@yourcloudemail.com I consider “cloud” to be a single (unreliable) basket. If you have your online stuff spread across 5 cloud providers, than any of them locking you out will disrupt you in some way.