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Philly courts will ban all smart eyeglasses starting next week

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Re: Philly courts will ban all smart eyeglasses starting next week

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It can be simultaneously true that smart glasses are a technological marvel and a privacy nightmare. It's also important to consider that while many places have some legal framework along the lines of "no reasonable expectation of privacy in public spaces," there's a social-psychological gap between that and the presumption of being constantly recorded, be it by other private individuals or governments. Because of th…

IMO much of the "no reasonable expectation" stuff is simply wrong, or treats things as an unreasonable binary. For example, there's no reasonable expectation that singing to myself in public won't be recorded. But almost everyone in public does reasonably-assume that their every step isn't being permanently logged by a stalking drone swarm.

Right, that's actually a fair framing. I get to enjoy a walking commute in my city, and or the most part, I feel very anonymous on my walk into the office.

Blending into rush hour foot traffic is easy, and I never feel like I stand out enough to attract attention... though in the back of my head, I know that most commercial and government properties have some form of video surveillance, probably backed by some kind of (hopefully coarse) AI subject tagging.

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> On-board NN moderates all interactions. Moral NN core must be updated montlhy to support latest moral and legal checks by NN. This core reports when you are doing something suspicious. This module is formally called "conscience" and fortunately, at this time, is securely sandboxed to not directly communicate with any device or service outside of the body.

Look how that worked out for whatever‘s your favorite mass genocide in history.

I don't think networking it with powers-that-be will help, though.

Re: Philly courts will ban all smart eyeglasses starting next week

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Public photography isn't a crime, but then again it's very nuanced. If I'm taking a portrait of a park, where people are having picnics, it seems "less targeted", if you know what I mean. Whereas walking with a phone or camera in your hand pointing directly at people's faces feels not really right. The best way to do this would be how Google solved this with street view. Capture your public photos, blur out people's…

It’s practically impossible to take pictures of a famous monument without having other people in the frame (usually they’re posing for photos themselves). AI can remove them, with varying degrees of success.

Ironically, it would probably be easier for the AI to generate the photo of the monument without the people. I mean, for famous monuments, whatever photo you're about to take, you could find 10 better ones already on-line, taken from the same point and perspective, and uploaded to Flickr or Instagram or wherenot.

Re: Philly courts will ban all smart eyeglasses starting next week

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As a full-time glasses-wearer and sci-fi nerd, I want smart glasses SO BAD. Just running the equivalent of YOLOv8 on your glasses identifying objects in your view real time would be very very cool. But as a privacy-conscious developer, I want exactly zero connection to any FAANG cloud service in my smart classes. So until someone releases a pair of smart glasses I can get with my prescription and, for example, use my…

It’s worse than this. A company offering “private” smart glasses could slip into FB mode on its own or get acquired. So it’s a hard no from any company really.

A company offering private smart glasses would have to offer them with an unlocked bootloader.

Re: Philly courts will ban all smart eyeglasses starting next week

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I had my first interaction with someone wearing Meta(I assume) glasses and it was very disconcerting. Ironically I was collecting my new (non-smart) glasses and it was the employee I was interacting with. I really wanted to ask for someone else to deal with me but since there has been no furore this time around (my how times have changed since Goggle Glass) I decided not to risk a scene

> I really wanted to ask for someone else to deal with me but since there has been no furore this time around (my how times have changed since Goggle Glass) I decided not to risk a scene

Isn't it fair to stand to your own principles even if others are moving in a different direction?

Re: Philly courts will ban all smart eyeglasses starting next week

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My local county is currently in a dispute with the local bar association because they want to upgrade the courthouse security cameras and the sheriff wants to add audio capabilities. This includes to parts of the building just outside the courtroom that counsel will frequently use for brief asides with their clients (due to lack of other private rooms). The county seems to favor adding the microphones and pinky swear…

Surely as a compromise the police dept can put cameras with audio livestreaming from every room in police dept ?

Re: Philly courts will ban all smart eyeglasses starting next week

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I had my first interaction with someone wearing Meta(I assume) glasses and it was very disconcerting. Ironically I was collecting my new (non-smart) glasses and it was the employee I was interacting with. I really wanted to ask for someone else to deal with me but since there has been no furore this time around (my how times have changed since Goggle Glass) I decided not to risk a scene

I think social pressure is the best weapon we have against these. The people who use them want to seem cool, so make it seem like these are weird, dorky, and creepy and they won’t take off.

Re: Philly courts will ban all smart eyeglasses starting next week

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I don't see how these glasses are legal at all. While filming in public places is allowed in the US, commercial use of that material is not. For example, you cannot just use public material with recognizable people in advertisements without their consent. Meta is likely to use material from these spy devices to build real world networks and use it commercially. These "glasses" should be outlawed. The only useful purp…

> I don't see how these glasses are legal at all. While filming in public places is allowed in the US, commercial use of that material is not

As a general statement about the law this is not correct. And that’s even before we get to the next paragraph where you just wildly speculate and use that as buttressing the already false premise.

Re: Philly courts will ban all smart eyeglasses starting next week

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Serious question: what will happen when people start getting implants? They’ll probably require some sort of off mode, but not sure how that would be enforced.

what will happen is people will get away with it, unfettered, until someday someone ends up in a courtroom for it. they'll be punished, then if it happens frequently enough more people will chime in on wanting a way to inhibit it, maybe people would start wearing those anti-paparazzi-clothes that somehow ruin the footage
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