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Say No to Palantir in Europe

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Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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But it’s already widespread in Europe, or at least in the Netherlands. Amsterdam Airport uses it, as do the Dutch police and the Dutch army. So shouldn’t it be: kick out Palantir?

Amsterdam Airport? Source?

Well, i don’t have a source. Its very hush hush, as even the part that the police is using it has been leaked by a redacted document. It’s crazy.

https://www.privacynieuws.nl/binnenlands-nieuws/politie-en-j...

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

#112

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Palantir's technology, as its own name suggests, is inherently dangerous, regardless of who controls it. The right alternative is to simply not build capabilities similar to Palantir in the EU - ideally, to legally forbid building them at all. This type of aggregated data flow simply gives too much control to whoever has access to it, and thus greatly harms democracy.

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That's a false choice. By investing in weapons instead of diplomacy, we've created this world of tit-for-tat violence. We can dismantle it too, it's not necessary to continue escalating until we exterminate our species.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

#113

But it’s already widespread in Europe, or at least in the Netherlands. Amsterdam Airport uses it, as do the Dutch police and the Dutch army. So shouldn’t it be: kick out Palantir?

Literally the second bullet point:

> Review and phase out existing contracts with the company.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

#114

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That's a false choice. By investing in weapons instead of diplomacy, we've created this world of tit-for-tat violence. We can dismantle it too, it's not necessary to continue escalating until we exterminate our species.

"We've" wdym? You don't get to decide the rules. Your adversary is not signing a legally binding contract.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

#116

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That's a false choice. By investing in weapons instead of diplomacy, we've created this world of tit-for-tat violence. We can dismantle it too, it's not necessary to continue escalating until we exterminate our species.

"We've" wdym? You don't get to decide the rules. Your adversary is not signing a legally binding contract.

"We" as a species with common interests like "not eradicating ourselves through violence."

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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Also "ICE separate[s] families" is such a ridiculous mischaracterization it makes me question all their other arguments.

> ICE separate[s] families" is such a ridiculous mischaracterization It's accurate. They do separate families. How or why doesn't matter, the fact stands in its own. It's not a "mischaracterization", it's a fact.

So do the police/courts if your dad goes to jail. It's incidental to their purpose.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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> we would end up with something much worse. Whenever I see this, I recognize it as obvious scaremongering.

When I saw "defund the policy" I recognised it as virtue signalling.

Same people that scoff at “Defund the Police” rejoice “Defund the Dept of Education” (and vice versa)

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

#119

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"We've" wdym? You don't get to decide the rules. Your adversary is not signing a legally binding contract.

"We" as a species with common interests like "not eradicating ourselves through violence."

I agree with you, but your adversary may not think in a sufficiently developed way.

Which is why we had such destructive wars in the past..

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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I don't think there has ever been a company so poorly understood (willfully or otherwise) as Palantir. They make a software platform, it does not come with any data, does not come connected to any datasources, etc. You can literally sign up right now for a trial and see this for yourself. It looks the same if you were to purchase a license. This headline might as well say 'Say No to PostgreSQL' or 'Say No to Excel' o…

Palantir's founders and executives are aware of what their tools are designed for and what they enable, and they're proud of their role.

Salesforce, Microsoft, and PostgresSQL contributors aren't bragging about how their products enable lethal military operations.

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