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Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

#111

"Black Cube" - wonder what they're going for there. Maybe "Sinister Obelisk" was taken.

They wanted everyone to know they are the bad guys, just like Black Rock.

It works, to be honest - I would never let Beige Rock manage my money.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

#112
The tapes show prominent Slovenian figures apparently discussing corruption, illegal lobbying and the misuse of state funds. Is there any evidence that the tape is fraudulent? The article doesn't provide any. I wonder if anybody even read the article other than words "Israeli firm" and jumped to a lynching

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

#113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> implies that Israel cannot govern their own state Or more simply that what the Israeli company did, is not illegal in Israel.

I can guarantee you that it is very illegal if you target the wrong government. Selective prosecution is a recurring issue under Israeli jurisprudence.

Okay, sure. Is Slovenia the wrong government?

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

#115

Quick question: Could they also be manipulating this message board's voting?

If they could get people to install a mobile UI app that fetches instructions on what to up/down-vote, what to flag/vouch then they could and unlikely anyone would notice.

It is unlikely that enough people would check their up/down vote history, vouch and flag history and even then some would assume they fat-fingered such things.

Such a UI could also save and upload username and password to another site. Some people use the same creds on multiple sites.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

#117

It's insane the power and influence Israelis have. In the US it's blatant, from the insane amounts of money and weaponry sent to Israel (why are american taxpayers subsidizing Israel exactly? It's not like they are neither poor nor US owes them) to the recent events in the middle east. But even in Europe. Here in Italy the coalition government has multiple high profile politicians that just happen to be shareholders…

> why are american taxpayers subsidizing Israel exactly?

The same reason USA is subsidizing half the middle eastern countries - its a strategic location near extremely important transit routes, near important resources, and right between major powers so the region doesn't squarely fall in any major power's sphere of influence and thus up to be influenced.

I dont know why all these conspiracy theories think the usaisrael relationship is so strange, but dont blink at the relationship usa has with egypt, uae, saudi arabia, bharain, etc.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

#119

So is the allegation that this private intelligence firm tried to induce members of the government party to offer a bribe. They then published the recorded conversations. I guess what is missing from the article is was the videos misleading or did they really get offered the bribe? Because if its the latter, its kind of hard to feel sympathy for a corrupt official getting caught even if the mechanism was problematic.

A bribe in a low trust society is not the same as a bribe in a high trust society.

In this context, a bribe is irrelevant compared to the act of election interference by a foreign actor.

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