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How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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You can also print them at the numerous Alaska Airlines kiosks at most airports

> Alaska Airlines kiosks Those don't exist. I guess you haven't traveled with Alaska for a while. https://worldaviationfestival.com/blog/airlines/alaska-airli...

I fly with them all the time. You can print your tickets at the ones that do bag check in where bag drop-off is, or the attendant that checks your ID and takes your bags can print them for you.

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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> What do hijackings have to do with a social safety net? Many of us who are middle-aged or older clearly remember what the US was like before it created the present security apparatus > passengers now know that there is nothing to be gained by cooperating with hijackers and nothing to be lost by fighting back. Yes passengers are going to rise up and fight people with guns? How do you fight back against a terrorist w…

It would probably cost less money and man-years of life to let every once in awhile some dumb terrorist blow up the plane while fruitlessly trying to access the locked cockpit to convince them to bring it to a juicier target, than it costs to put a gazillion people in long lines, tax the shit out of them for DHS (including the murderous ICE agency), and put them through security theater while also costs many many man…

So now you’re going to have every single airline at every gate check for explosives? Who is going to do it? The already overworked gate agents?

You realize before TSA private contractors were doing the same thing at airports and still are at a few airports in the US?

You realize you’re suggesting something that absolutely no country in the world does as far as I know.

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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> What do hijackings have to do with a social safety net? Many of us who are middle-aged or older clearly remember what the US was like before it created the present security apparatus > passengers now know that there is nothing to be gained by cooperating with hijackers and nothing to be lost by fighting back. Yes passengers are going to rise up and fight people with guns? How do you fight back against a terrorist w…

It would probably cost less money and man-years of life to let every once in awhile some dumb terrorist blow up the plane while fruitlessly trying to access the locked cockpit to convince them to bring it to a juicier target, than it costs to put a gazillion people in long lines, tax the shit out of them for DHS (including the murderous ICE agency), and put them through security theater while also costs many many man…

So mothballed knows more about costs benefits of security than the entire world?

Opposite anecdote. I flew out of here last year:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quepos_La_Managua_Airport

Yes that’s the entire terminal, it’s an internal flight in Costa Rica on a really tiny plane. Even they have metal detectors. Costa Rica doesn’t even have a military so they aren’t a militarized state.

I have flown in an out of many airports in the south - Atlanta, Nashville, a small regional airport in South GA, Savannah, Raleigh, Charlotte, both Houston airports, Dallas, South Carolina, etc. You can try to get a gun through if you want to

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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To be fair though, that horse bolted a couple of centuries ago. What other name would you call it by? There's another "united states" on the same continent. The country to the immediate south is formally known as the "United Mexican States".

But the whole hemisphere is not "Mexico". USA and Canada are not also "North Mexico". Their harmless little reminder is more correct than any of the attempted arguments against it.

It was the first group of united states on the continent. North America was, relative to the land that became Mexico, thinly peopled. Unlike in Mexico there was no pre-colonial, indigenous empire that had ruled and named the land which eventually became the 13 colonies. So there wasn't necessarily a better alternative to put after "United States of" at the time. Do you know of one?

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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Ditch the phone. The liability, tracking and mental health problems created due to modern phones has made owning one unsustainable. Email works, at worst, voip providers exist. Do you need a map? Print one. Do you need directions? Ask someone. Does the restaurant only offer app or qr, ask someone, or go somewhere else. I have never encountered a phone-related problem that could not be solved with: 1. A print out. 2.…

You drive car or walk everywhere you go? Car is convenience, yes but it is the privacy nightmare (unless you gamble and drive without plates :) )

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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or, perhaps, they are wryly pushing back against the USA capturing a generic geographic term for themselves

To be fair though, that horse bolted a couple of centuries ago. What other name would you call it by? There's another "united states" on the same continent. The country to the immediate south is formally known as the "United Mexican States".

If I'm not mistaking the name "United States of Mexico" appeared in 1824, whereas "United States of America" appeared earlier in 1787.

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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> What do hijackings have to do with a social safety net? Many of us who are middle-aged or older clearly remember what the US was like before it created the present security apparatus > passengers now know that there is nothing to be gained by cooperating with hijackers and nothing to be lost by fighting back. Yes passengers are going to rise up and fight people with guns? How do you fight back against a terrorist w…

It would probably cost less money and man-years of life to let every once in awhile some dumb terrorist blow up the plane while fruitlessly trying to access the locked cockpit to convince them to bring it to a juicier target, than it costs to put a gazillion people in long lines, tax the shit out of them for DHS (including the murderous ICE agency), and put them through security theater while also costs many many man…

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Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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Don't carry them with you. I'm old and I can tell you from experience... you can live life without holding a cellphone all the time. It's not as hard as you think.

And then you look like an undercover officer running a sting operation for Uber drivers (https://youtu.be/LqwJFuntco4?t=150).

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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> What do hijackings have to do with a social safety net? Many of us who are middle-aged or older clearly remember what the US was like before it created the present security apparatus > passengers now know that there is nothing to be gained by cooperating with hijackers and nothing to be lost by fighting back. Yes passengers are going to rise up and fight people with guns? How do you fight back against a terrorist w…

It would probably cost less money and man-years of life to let every once in awhile some dumb terrorist blow up the plane while fruitlessly trying to access the locked cockpit to convince them to bring it to a juicier target, than it costs to put a gazillion people in long lines, tax the shit out of them for DHS (including the murderous ICE agency), and put them through security theater while also costs many many man…

> Though I'm told a few regional airlines in the South don't do security either (one guy told me a story of the pilot handing him his gun back after he boarded), though I'm not sure how they get away with it, since AFAIK it's required on interstate flights. And of course chartered flights, which generally don't require security either

How exactly would a pilot have the gun that TSA took from him?

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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Only go to good parts. Like Mexico and South America in general.

In English, "America" means the USA specifically. But you knew that already and decided to just post bait.

So was Trump being inclusive or exclusive when he renamed the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America?
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