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Do Not Turn Child Protection into Internet Access Control

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Re: Do Not Turn Child Protection into Internet Access Control

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Post by weird_tentacles »

NeutralCrane wrote: post #96
bilekas wrote: post #9

It's too late and never about children, simply deeper forms of data harvesting and surveillance. What makes me extremely sad and concerned is that more recent generations simply have no idea or expectation of privacy online anymore. There will never be more of a fight against all this Orwellian behavior.

I live in an area that has been declared among the safest in America. Two months ago a 17 year old girl from our city disappeared. Turns out she had been being groomed for a year over Discord and in Roblox by a 39 year old the next state over. He eventually convinced her to let him pick her up, after which he filmed himself having sex with her, killed her, and then dismembered her body. He apparently was grooming oth…

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Re: Do Not Turn Child Protection into Internet Access Control

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Post by anonym29 »

smallmancontrov wrote: post #92
Tarq0n wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't like the "those in power" framing because it implies that they all participated and that such a homogenous group even exists.

Yes, and many people have an extreme incentive to retreat to that framing because * In 2024, they had a choice between pedophiles and not pedophiles and chose the pedophiles. * In 2020, they had a choice between pedophiles and not pedophiles and chose the pedophiles. * In 2016, they had a choice between pedophiles and not pedophiles and chose the pedophiles. There was plenty of evidence of this association in 2016 (b…

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Re: Do Not Turn Child Protection into Internet Access Control

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Post by ivanjermakov »

hei-lima wrote: post #93
deadbabe wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did it affect in your life? Ultimately something with affect a kid’s life.

I mean... access to adult content at that age is really, really bad. It really messed up my brain. Gore videos, chatting with adults, etc. But I learned many good things, too. It's a double-edged sword.

I don't see how this "child protection" enforcement would help in case of small obscure websites with porn and gore? No way their admins gonna comply. I doubt ISPs would go that far to DNS whitelist compliant websites only.

Re: Do Not Turn Child Protection into Internet Access Control

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Post by wakawaka28 »

rkomorn wrote: post #108
bdangubic wrote: post #106

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25 states isn't cherry-picking :) geeeeeeeeeeez!

I think/hope they were being sarcastic.

No, it's bipartisan and even fucking international. I think there is a very obvious conspiracy to get this done, but maybe it's a big coincidence that governments and politicians everywhere suck now.

Re: Do Not Turn Child Protection into Internet Access Control

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Post by grvdrm »

hei-lima wrote: post #93
deadbabe wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did it affect in your life? Ultimately something with affect a kid’s life.

I mean... access to adult content at that age is really, really bad. It really messed up my brain. Gore videos, chatting with adults, etc. But I learned many good things, too. It's a double-edged sword.

Messed up how?

Re: Do Not Turn Child Protection into Internet Access Control

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Post by weird_tentacles »

mattmanser wrote: post #35
bilekas wrote: post #9

It's too late and never about children, simply deeper forms of data harvesting and surveillance. What makes me extremely sad and concerned is that more recent generations simply have no idea or expectation of privacy online anymore. There will never be more of a fight against all this Orwellian behavior.

Go watch the newest Louis Theroux, into the manosphere. At points Louis and whatever absolute scumbag he's with walk around the streets while the guy is filming his own content. There are kids, literally 11/12 year olds, walking up to these predatory, evil, scammers on the street going "oh my god it's MC" or whatever their name is. Multiple times. And he hardly gets to spend any time with these men because they clock…

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Re: Do Not Turn Child Protection into Internet Access Control

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Post by tredre3 »

smallmancontrov wrote: post #83
catapart wrote: post #59

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Like who? Name some names of people pushing for this, and we can dissect their motivation.

These laws were passed almost exclusively by the party of self-proclaimed free speech warriors led by Epstein's best friend. State | Effective Date | Legislature Control ------------------+----------------+---------------------- Alabama | Oct 1, 2024 | Republican Arizona | Sep 26, 2025 | Republican Arkansas | Jul 31, 2023 | Republican California | Jan 1, 2027 | Democratic Florida | Jan 1, 2025 | Republican Georgia |…

It's curious that you've omitted California (Democrats) and Colorado (Democrats) from your list.

Re: Do Not Turn Child Protection into Internet Access Control

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Post by Velocifyer »

jjk166 wrote: post #24

The people pushing for "child protection" went to the island. It's not even about control, it's about shifting liability away from platforms so they can further gut moderation, reducing their expenses and getting away with doing nothing to stop the actual bad actors.

Which island?

Re: Do Not Turn Child Protection into Internet Access Control

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Post by gosub100 »

gruez wrote: post #76
girvo wrote: post #53

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> shadowy cabal of pedophiles elites Its a shame that this used to just be a conspiracy theory one could mostly ignore, but we simply can't pretend that there isn't rampant CSA by those in power, because we've had proof of it despite their best efforts. Without wanting to get into politics, the leader of the United States right now was friends with the supposed ring-leader... > but what about everyone else pushing fo…

>we simply can't pretend that there isn't rampant CSA by those in power, because we've had proof of it despite their best efforts What's "rampant"? The news coverage provides no shortage of people, but ringing off 100 (or whatever) people that are in the files doesn't say much, even if we make the questionable assumption that inclusion in files implies guilt. I'm sure that everyone would prefer the amount of pedophil…

The resistance to the release of the files including redactions and outright refusal of Congressional order is enough to reveal the magnitude of what's going on. I would even dare say this Iran war is in part due to blackmail gained on DJT.
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