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Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Which was formerly challenged by the $700 Macbook Air, to little avail.

What $700 MacBook Air?

Walmart has been selling the M1 MacBook Air for $700 for the past couple years. (And $650 for the latter part of that time frame.)

Those weren't leftover stock or sale prices - Apple was producing the M1 MBA specifically for the $700 price point at third-party retailers.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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> The competition at this price point is weak. Is it though? 6 months ago for $575, I picked up a 15" 1080p IPS display laptop with an AMD Ryzen 7 6800H (8 cores / 16 threads), 32 GB of DDR5 RAM, Radeon 680M iGPU that can use up to 8 GB VRAM and a 1 TB NVME SSD with a backlight keyboard, a bunch of USB ports and HDMI port. It weighs the same as a MBP and comes with a 2 year manufacturer warranty. It's upgradable to 6…

> 1080p > It weighs the same as a MBP A much larger laptop with less than half the number of display pixels is not really the same market. And how's that battery life?

> A much larger laptop with less than half the number of display pixels is not really the same market. And how's that battery life?

Yes, the display isn't as good but the Neo with 512 GB of storage is already $700 and has half the storage of the other laptop. The Neo also has 8 GB of RAM vs 32 GB. Big differences IMO.

Battery life is "good enough" but not great. It really depends on what you're using it for. If you're doing CPU bound tasks a lot, it's not going to last as long. I guess a takeaway is I was never in a situation where I had to change my behaviors because of the battery life. Unless you're planning to be out in the middle of no where without a power bank for an extended period time doing workload intensive tasks it's fine.

Likewise, the display being only 1080p isn't as bad as you would think. I'd be surprised if anyone is running their 13" Neo at 2408 x 1506 at native scaling. That would be 219 PPI. For reference I run a 4k 32" monitor at native 1:1 scaling and that's 138 PPI. It would be bonkers to consider using 219 PPI from a normal viewing distance. Most scaled resolutions with the Neo would be effectively 1080p resolution but with sharper text.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Such as new screenshot dialog in iOS, where one click has now become three, because we've hidden the primary controls under two pointless single-fold menus. I wonder if someone got a raise for that.

I like the new dialog? I basically always crop the image when screenshotting so the new UI results in less button pressing for me. How often do you need to capture your entire screen? I almost always want to focus on something.

I usually want to capture a window, not an arbitrary region (and will sometimes resize a window before a screenshot to enable this). Hotkeys already supported this without cropping needed, and with bonus proper transparent corners.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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All of those specs are orthogonal to the gripes people are referring to when they call a laptop a "plastic shitbox"

Apple sold high-quality plastic laptops for a very long time, so evidently there's something there.

High quality for their time. The toilet bowl was very heavy for its screen size, and had minimal volume for battery. The G3 iBook lacked rigidity, and had a tendency to damage the mainboard if picked up from a corner. The G4 iBook had grounding issues, and would occasionally get spicy with two-prong outlets. All three of these issues were directly related to the plastic chassis. All three were great laptops for their day; none would be acceptable in this decade.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Part of me thinks this is a bad sign for Apple. They have always been a premium brand. I'm not a business major, but it just feels like a bad thing when premium enters low-end markets. But on the other hand, this is kind of the culmination of them owning their hardware stack. They can avoid the commoditization race to the bottom since they are the exclusive owners of a significant amount of their hardware vertical, F…

They have made something that can more easily be adopted by schools for students.

They are creating countless customers for life.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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post #77

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My Mac is staying releases back, but iOS26 no longer respects light mode. Since I see astigmatic halation, this will be my last iDevice.

I run light mode on my iPhone and haven't noticed it switching to dark mode in any way. Do you have the automatic mode selection enabled accidentally?

No, this is not switching to dark mode, it's particular system features now being dark only, like notifications, search, control panel, and some other lesser things I don't specifically now remember.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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> 1080p > It weighs the same as a MBP A much larger laptop with less than half the number of display pixels is not really the same market. And how's that battery life?

> A much larger laptop with less than half the number of display pixels is not really the same market. And how's that battery life? Yes, the display isn't as good but the Neo with 512 GB of storage is already $700 and has half the storage of the other laptop. The Neo also has 8 GB of RAM vs 32 GB. Big differences IMO. Battery life is "good enough" but not great. It really depends on what you're using it for. If you'r…

> If you're doing CPU bound tasks a lot

You're not in the market for a netbook-type machine if this is the case.

> but with sharper text.

Text huh? Sounds important.

> Battery life is "good enough" but not great.

So, do you want a lightweight client / light productivity machine with tons of battery life, great text, and a kickass trackpad? Or an affordable workstation replacement? Different markets.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Huh the neo can't really be the driver of this right? As it's barely out and I think not yet physically available in most places. The headline hints at a causation that I don't think exists.

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It even says so in the article:

> If you want a MacBook Neo, you may have to wait. In the U.S., MacBook Neo orders placed through Apple's online store today are estimated to be delivered between April 6 and April 13. However, it may be possible to find a MacBook Neo sooner at one of Apple's retail stores, or through authorized resellers such as Amazon and Walmart.

But I found the reason, it's not really a 'sales record'. It's a very specific thing, sales of new macs to first time mac users within the launch week.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Such as new screenshot dialog in iOS, where one click has now become three, because we've hidden the primary controls under two pointless single-fold menus. I wonder if someone got a raise for that.

I like the new dialog? I basically always crop the image when screenshotting so the new UI results in less button pressing for me. How often do you need to capture your entire screen? I almost always want to focus on something.

There was already a way to do that. Cmd-Shift-4, drag a rectangle around what you want to screencap. Cmd-Shift-4 Space, click a window to screencap it.

These have been in the OS for so long I can't even remember when they were added.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102646

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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isn’t what cook is pointing out actually the most important thing? a product created for the strategic purpose of expanding into a new clientele is doing exactly that. that is the win. put another way, if the statement he said was “best launch week ever for Mac customers.” that does not speak to the entire reason for the existence of this product category. in essence, THAT would be the pointless statement.

it doesn't give a sense of how much the Neo moves the needle or grows the pie though. Mac and iPad are each 8% of Apple's business. iPhone is 50%. for Apple to focus on fixing things in macOS again (as opposed to just backporting stuff from their other lines) Mac would need to grow by a lot.

Not really. An independent Mac company with 8% of Apple's sales would still be the #3 computer manufacturer behind Dell and HP, and Mac gross margins could easily support significantly larger investments in OS development if Apple chose to do so.
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