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Re: Afroman found not liable in defamation case

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Post by jrm4 »

yread wrote: post #57
Mashimo wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but not limited to just that one. https://www.youtube.com/@ogafroman/videos He also has other videos where he calls one of them a pedofile, questioning their gender (Licc'm low lisa) and more.

> pedofile apparently, the deputy in question has a brother who was a deputy as well but was fired and charged with a sexual misdemeanor against minors. Afroman also said he steals money during traffic stops and he was accused of that multiple times. Of course that's not bulletproof evidence but a reasonable person might assume these rumours are not completely unfounded EDIT: also the deputy of course didn't steal th…

"Of course?"

Where is that coming from?

Do you seriously not believe (well, know) that sadly, many cops do this ALL THE TIME?

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Post by jrm4 »

komali2 wrote: post #96
hollywood_court wrote: post #75

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I was raised by LEOs. My mother and all four of her husbands were career long LEOs in the South. Of course this is just based on my anecdotes, but LEOs have some of the thinnest skin imaginable. The first time I fought a grown man was when I was 13 and I had to fight my mother's fourth husband. He was a Deputy Sheriff and combat veteran and that dude had the emotional strength of a 12 year old girl who didn't get ask…

It seems the job selects for those types. I suppose people interested in law enforcement / justice that aren't that way either end up as lawyers or working for the FBI or something.

Other way around, right? Those types select that job. You're weak but you want to appear powerful, so...

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Post by radlad »

smt88 wrote: post #99
postalcoder wrote: post #41

It gives me immeasurable delight seeing afroman at the top of HN. Love me some freedom, sweet soulful music, and pie in the face of bad cops. Dang/Tom, please don't downrank this. America needs this win.

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Not sure he's "big MAGA" but I assume this is where the idea stems from - https://www.newsweek.com/afroman-explains-his-new-song-hunte...

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Post by throwaway173738 »

hrimfaxi wrote: post #77
anon84873628 wrote: post #51

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That didn't seem like faux crying. Making fun of her in that way is the hardest to defend IMO, since it had nothing to do with her job performance or relevant character attributes. (E.g. how the other officer had been accused of stealing before, or had a brother resign from the force after being charged with a crime involving a minor). That said, I don't disagree with outcome.

These people carry guns and can kill you on the street and they can't take getting called some bad names?

Yes, exactly. Try calling a cop a “pig” to their face. Or breaking up with a cop. Or just say no to something they’re asking you to do.

“Not all cops” and all that, but enough of them are like that that you have to be really careful how you engage with them.

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Post by rtkwe »

postalcoder wrote: post #41

It gives me immeasurable delight seeing afroman at the top of HN. Love me some freedom, sweet soulful music, and pie in the face of bad cops. Dang/Tom, please don't downrank this. America needs this win.

I think this all started with cake in the face of a cop not pie!

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Post by Moomoomoo309 »

mmooss wrote: post #93
embedding-shape wrote: post #26

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Also probably a rare case where there are a few Streisand effect's all packed together, where the cops at each step made it worse for themselves. If they never did the raid in the first place, no music video, no "embarrassment". They could have cut their losses, and not made a big deal about it and probably way less people (including myself) would have ever heard about it. Instead they decided to sue, which made even…

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To be fair, there is legal precedent for cops not being too smart.

https://ny.prelawland.com/post/719662253773832192/too-smart-...

They're allowed to not hire someone if their IQ is too high. The stereotype is at the very least based on truth, and has been affirmed legally.

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Post by Tostino »

mmooss wrote: post #93
embedding-shape wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also probably a rare case where there are a few Streisand effect's all packed together, where the cops at each step made it worse for themselves. If they never did the raid in the first place, no music video, no "embarrassment". They could have cut their losses, and not made a big deal about it and probably way less people (including myself) would have ever heard about it. Instead they decided to sue, which made even…

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Have you watched any of the video from the raid, depositions, or the trial? They are not smart people.

Re: Afroman found not liable in defamation case

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

ourmandave wrote: post #14
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #6

Pretty funny, worth seeing at least once to be able to reference it at appropriate times. Having had my house raided, I love this. Police incompetence should be exposed at all opportunities with the hope that it makes some small amount of difference to future competence.

Hoping it wasn't the SWAT guys. Those guys go hard and everyone is a meth terrorist until zip tied on the floor and proven otherwise. They also tend to shoot your dog. =(

Mime was in Australia, so much lower chance of violence, more polite.

The incompetence was:

1. The entire suspicion was based on an IP address

2. They did no background investigation for potential counter evidence - they didn't even know to expect children in the house (school aged children that have been attending public school for at least 5 years each at that point).

3. As a result of the above, one of my kids was somewhat traumatised by being woken up with a police officer in her room

7 cops. They called in two more because I had so much computer hardware, so 9 cops altogether for an entire morning.

8 months later I get told I can pick up my (~$10k worth of) gear that they took. No case to answer.

Should never have made it to a warrant. Useless, lazy, waste of a lot of resources. And creates an entire extended family with significantly diminished respect for, and increased suspicion of, the police force as a whole...

... you know, that whole erosion of trust in the system that's playing out writ large right now.

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