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Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system

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Post by ryandrake »

torginus wrote: post #109

Why do people keep reinventing OS features? There's Docker, OverlayFS, FUSE, ZFS or Btrfs snapshots? Do you not trust your OS to do this correctly, or do you think you can do better? A lot of this stuff existed 5, 10, 15 years ago... Somehow there's been a trend for every effing program to grow and absorb the features and responsibilities of every other program. Actually, I have a brilliant idea, what if we used node…

One of the worst is media players that all insist on grafting their own "library" on top of my already-working OS filesystem. So I can't just run the media player and play files. No, that would be too simple. I have to first "import" my media into a "library" abstraction and then store that library somewhere else on my filesystem. Terrible!

Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system

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Post by athorax »

indutny wrote: post #42
athorax wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How exactly does it violate the Developer's Certificate of Origin clause?

The submitted code must adhere to either of (a), (b), (c), and separately a (d) clause of: https://github.com/nodejs/node/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#dev... If submitter picks (a) they assert that they wrote the code themselves and have right to submit it under project's license. If (b) the code was taken from another place with clear license terms compatible with the project's license. If (c) contribution was written…

Not sure if you are intentionally misrepresenting (a), but here is the full text

(a) The contribution was created in whole or in part by me and I have the right to submit it under the open source license indicated in the file; or

Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system

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Post by williamstein »

torginus wrote: post #109

Why do people keep reinventing OS features? There's Docker, OverlayFS, FUSE, ZFS or Btrfs snapshots? Do you not trust your OS to do this correctly, or do you think you can do better? A lot of this stuff existed 5, 10, 15 years ago... Somehow there's been a trend for every effing program to grow and absorb the features and responsibilities of every other program. Actually, I have a brilliant idea, what if we used node…

This exact thing solves a huge problem with SEA binaries as he points out in his post. You can include complicated assets easily and skip an ugly unpack step entirely. This is very useful.

Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system

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Post by buttsack »

PaulHoule wrote: post #5

Would be nice if node packages could be packed up in ZIP files so to avoid the security/metadata tax for small file access on Windows.

When npm decided to have per-project node_modules (rather than shared like ruby and others) and human readable configs and library files I think the goal was to be a developer friendly and highly configurable, which it is. And package.json became a lot more than that as a result, it’s been a great system IMO.

Combined with a hackable IDE like Atom (Pulsar) made with the same tech it’s a pretty great dev exp for web devs

Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system

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Post by syrusakbary »

indutny wrote: post #29

Taking the question of whether this would be a useful addition to Node.js core or aside, it must be noted that this 19k LoC PR was mostly generated by Claude Code and manually reviewed by the submitter which in my opinion is against the spirit of the project and directly violates the terms of Developer's Certificate of Origin set in the project's CONTRIBUTING.md

Fully disagree with this take. Not allowing AI assistance on PRs will likely decimate the project in the future, as it will not allow fast iteration speeds compared to other alternatives.

Note aside, OpenJS executive director mentioned it's ok to use AI assistance on Node.js contributions:

  I checked with legal and the foundation is fine with the DCO on AI-assisted contributions. We’ll work on getting this documented.
[1]: https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/61478#issuecomment-40772...
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