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Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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> largely unverifiable story there’s literally pictures in the article of the bodies

Merely that someone died seems to be a tiny fraction of the claims here.

The claim is that the IDF shot his family. Even the IDF does not dispute this. What are you thinking this article is saying?

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It's not collateral damage in the gaza war. This was a family in the west bank, where there is no hamas and no "war", that was gunned down in cold blood for no reason. Not even presenting a threat. I hope one day you are able to find compassion.

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> about an incident involving New Zealanders and Maoris

Really?

Aotearoan here. Our racist history is shameful. Many massacres, both sides but mostly one way traffic.

Our history of "othering" indigenous people here in law was shameful too.

But seriously, and with all due respect, fuck you!!

We are facing up to our racist past, present and (Dog help us) future.

Tikanga Māori is joining our legal system.

Being openly racist to Māori is politically suicidal (some right wing politicians are giving it a go, and getting burnt for it)

Māori institutions are integrating themselves into all levels of our culture and society

And on and on. New Zealand is a Māori country, I am Pākehā, I have no problem with that, I belong here too. We (white people) are learning to share, learning there are more ways than our ways. Israel could learn from us, but...

The Isralies are utterly different. The violent homicidal, nay genocidal, racism of Israel is institutional.

Fuck you. For all we have our problems with racism, we are not genocidal racist violent thugs, as are the IDF representing the Israli state

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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I have followed this conflict since Operation Cast Lead and the beginnings of the siege on Gaza.

Israel has been using enormous amounts of force against the Palestinian people since then, with death tolls of _at least_ 100 dead Palestinians for every dead Israeli.

For a very good account of life in Israel around the time of Cast Lead I recommend Guy Delisle, brilliant diary in comic form.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem:_Chronicles_from_the...

His partner was working for Doctors Without Borders, the Israeli Army refused to let them enter Gaza to help the people suffering under their bombardments.

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I am German. My government does not acknowledge the tragedy that has been unfolding in Gaza since the Hamas attack in October 2023. It’s absurd. Since then, Jewish people in Berlin who were demonstrating alongside Palestinians against the war in Gaza have been beaten down by the German police. In 2021, Esther Bejarano, the last survivor of the Auschwitz Girls’ Orchestra, passed away in Hamburg. Whenever she commented…

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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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> it is very unfortunate and we as a society feel bad for this > Sick pro palys... Lol. And you as a society don't feel bad for illegally occupying and colonising other people's territory? Why don't you withdraw within your borders?

> Why don't you withdraw within your borders? They already did that multiple times with no positive outcomes whatsoever, go learn some history

Effective border control would be much easier to implement than the settlement program. In fact it largely has been working since the second intifada when they reinforced it. The west bank settlements make israel less safe, not more.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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For those wondering, it is verifiable story, it is covered as fact in Israeli newspapers: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-... https://www.ynetnews.com/article/p7mq5k5bs The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. The New York Times describes it as such: "Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him i…

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> this is war 101, every day.

Except this situation has been going on like this for 60 years - with Israel, or the other western states having absolutely no plans to change anything about it (except making it even worse).

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