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Coding after coders: The end of computer programming as we know it?

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Re: Coding after coders: The end of computer programming as we know it?

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Having an AI is like having a dedicated assistant or junior programmer that sometimes has senior-level insights. I use it to do tedious tasks where I don't care about the code - like today I used it to generate a static web page that let me experiment with the spring-ai chat bot code I was writing - basic. But yesterday it was able to track down the cause of a very obscure bug having to do with a pom.xml loading two…

I've generated 250KLoC this week, absolutely no changes in deps or any other shenanigans. I'm not even really trying to optimize my output. I work on plans/proposals with 2 or 3 agents simultaneously in Cursor while one does work, sometimes parallelized. I can't do that in less code and cleaner. I can't do it at all. Don't wait too long.

Your developers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should (add 250kloc)

Re: Coding after coders: The end of computer programming as we know it?

#112

Having an AI is like having a dedicated assistant or junior programmer that sometimes has senior-level insights. I use it to do tedious tasks where I don't care about the code - like today I used it to generate a static web page that let me experiment with the spring-ai chat bot code I was writing - basic. But yesterday it was able to track down the cause of a very obscure bug having to do with a pom.xml loading two…

Syntax highlighting rules, initially vibe-coded 40 languages and formats in about 10 minutes. What surprised me is when it switched the design from a class to the far more elegant single line of code:

    return \file_exists( $file ) ? require $file : [];
* https://repo.autonoma.ca/repo/treetrek/blob/HEAD/render/High...

The rules files:

* https://repo.autonoma.ca/repo/treetrek/tree/HEAD/render/rule...

Re: Coding after coders: The end of computer programming as we know it?

#113

Back in the day, programming was done on punch cards. In 20 years, that's how kids will see typing out lines of program code by hand.

different things. adding levels of abstraction is not the same as having a statistical model generate abstractions for you.

you can still call it spec-programming but if you don't audit your generated code then you're simply doing it wrong; you just don't realize that yet because you've been getting away with it until now.

Re: Coding after coders: The end of computer programming as we know it?

#114

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I think you’re a bit behind on your world view. Just because it’s inconvenient to you that non coders can now code, doesn’t make it untrue.

No, they can’t. It has nothing to do with inconvenience. I really like that layman now make these statements - they know better than people working in the industry for decades.

None of them understand the first thing about what the job actually is, or they wouldn't try to brag about the 200K LoC they generated lol

Re: Coding after coders: The end of computer programming as we know it?

#117

Having an AI is like having a dedicated assistant or junior programmer that sometimes has senior-level insights. I use it to do tedious tasks where I don't care about the code - like today I used it to generate a static web page that let me experiment with the spring-ai chat bot code I was writing - basic. But yesterday it was able to track down the cause of a very obscure bug having to do with a pom.xml loading two…

I've generated 250KLoC this week, absolutely no changes in deps or any other shenanigans. I'm not even really trying to optimize my output. I work on plans/proposals with 2 or 3 agents simultaneously in Cursor while one does work, sometimes parallelized. I can't do that in less code and cleaner. I can't do it at all. Don't wait too long.

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Re: Coding after coders: The end of computer programming as we know it?

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For any non professional work its there for me. Wire up authentication system with sso. done Setup websockets, stream audio from mic, transcribe with elvenlabs. done. Shit that would take me hours takes literally 5 mins.

All that stuff would take me about 5 minutes without AI. Those are things with 10,000 examples all over the web. AI is good at distilling the known solutions. But anything even slightly out of the ordinary, it fails miserably. I'd much rather write that code myself instead of spend an hour convincing an AI to do it for me.

Im curious though, what do you consider slightly out of the ordinary that it fails to do?

Re: Coding after coders: The end of computer programming as we know it?

#120

Having an AI is like having a dedicated assistant or junior programmer that sometimes has senior-level insights. I use it to do tedious tasks where I don't care about the code - like today I used it to generate a static web page that let me experiment with the spring-ai chat bot code I was writing - basic. But yesterday it was able to track down the cause of a very obscure bug having to do with a pom.xml loading two…

I've generated 250KLoC this week, absolutely no changes in deps or any other shenanigans. I'm not even really trying to optimize my output. I work on plans/proposals with 2 or 3 agents simultaneously in Cursor while one does work, sometimes parallelized. I can't do that in less code and cleaner. I can't do it at all. Don't wait too long.

LOL that's it? I generated over 5 million lines of code this week. You need to step it up or you're gonna be left behind.
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