Grammar at its best promotes clear communication but more often is used as a social tool of control and exclusion. When you are already talking to people within your in-group, that impulse isn’t necessary.
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Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar
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Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar
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THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD GO BACK TO ALL CAPS SO WE HAVE LESS SYMBOLS TO WORRY AVOUT MAYBE GO BACK TO IGNORE DIACRITICS CUZ THEY ARE WIRD IT IS THE WAY OF OUR FOUNCERS
totally missed the point, but you do you.
> _capitalization_ is one of those "arbitrary rules"
If you're going to qualify capitalization as an arbitrary rule, then it wouldn't matter if it's all lowercase or all uppercase. It's not a whim of scholars, it improves readability, it emphasizes, it carries meaning.
All uppercase looks loud today, but early computers were also all uppercase and it was normal. All lowercase looks bland and sloppy, only a few steps removed from "what u doing lol?" texting shorthand.
Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
this isn't wrong but spelling and grammar still isn't a good indicator for expertise, intelligence or anything like that even in an academic context Mainly: 1. Dyslexia doesn't make you dump, just likely to misspell and a less likely to notice your misspelling. 2. When speaking about neurodivergence people mainly think about Autism or ADHD but sometimes just mean that your brain thinks in very different patters, this…
Trying to decide whether the mistakes in your response are deliberate or accidental.
Pretty grate either way.
Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar
#114British aristocracy has been pronouncing their own surnames wrong for centuries on purpose. Cholmondeley is "Chumley" Featherstonehaugh is "Fanshaw." If you read it phonetically you mark yourself as an outsider. The misstake is the membership card. (Heck, even in Portland we locals hear about misprouncing Couch St probably every year in local press as some bar for membership to our own locals only vibe.)
Same as Texans asking where Houston Street is in NYC.
But Houston Street is older than Sam Houston, and was always pronounced that way.
Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar
#115Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
America is at least as guilty of mispronouncing non-english words it's just natural drift. As to fillet and valet, they joined english before the contemporary french pronunciation, and are much closer to the middle-french.
>America is at least as guilty of mispronouncing non-english words it's just natural drift. See also: Cairo, IL or Versailles, KY...
Is the Illinois one the same pronunciation as "KAY-ro", Georgia?
Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar
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Here in Toronto area city of Vaughan pronounced as (/vɔːn/ or /vɑːn/) like in "dawn" or "gone" Imaging me fresh from USSR asking someone how do I get to ... and getting blank stare
That's great. What's also amusing is how you felt it necessary to provide the diacritical pronunciation guide for "Vaughan"... because I think to most native English speakers we can't imagine any other pronunciation!
I think native English speaker who had never heard of Vaughan (sure we can find some of those) would likely to pronounce it like "Vog-un" - /ˈvɒɡən/ or "Vog-han" - /ˈvɑːɡən/
Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar
#118nowadays, if you have correct spelling and grammar people accuse you of being an llm.
I end all of my sentences with periods and I was told that I have a negative attitude at work because of it. Seriously, my manager's advice was to stop ending my sentences with periods.
In lieu of exclamation points? Or just run on chains of thought?
Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar
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touch screen phones are a useful compromise. If I'm going to write a lot I want a real keyboard and large monitor with all the features thereof. However often I just need a quick note and I'm not in the office. I would not carry a desktop computer to the airport (I'm old enough to remember the IBM XT luggable computer - built in CRT monitor, not battery: it was portable, but it was a real workout). A laptop is someti…
Phones (really, the pocket/handheld form factor) are a necessity and are limited; I agree. We could deliver better text input interfaces for them. For heavy typers, physical keyboards in candybar phones (.e.g, old Blackberrys, etc.) and landscape-oriented clamshells fix many issues, but those are outre for some reason. Even on-screen UIs could be better. Just arrow keys to move to the cursor precisely would be a sign…
I think the blackberry I had before the current trend of full touchscreen smartphones was the only cellphone I ever enjoyed using for the device itself.
Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar
#120British aristocracy has been pronouncing their own surnames wrong for centuries on purpose. Cholmondeley is "Chumley" Featherstonehaugh is "Fanshaw." If you read it phonetically you mark yourself as an outsider. The misstake is the membership card. (Heck, even in Portland we locals hear about misprouncing Couch St probably every year in local press as some bar for membership to our own locals only vibe.)
> misstake
I see what you did there. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law