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Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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^ this comment is more relevant than people might think. HP regularly deploys broken BIOS updates and literally bricks your laptops. Happened in 2023 I think 7 times that year, and one time even right in the next week. Our IT got so fed up and ditched any HP laptops because of it.

Never update your BIOS unless you have a specific bug that needs fixed. I remember a Thinkpad BIOS update ended up destroying both undervolting and overclocking, and required a "chip-clip" programmer to revert.

I built a tower several years ago and it had CPU temp issues from the start. I RMA’d the cooler, reapplied the thermal paste a couple times, reassembled the whole build, etc. It wasn’t my main machine, but every time I sat down to use it the CPU would run hot and thermal-throttle. It’s an i9 with P/E cores, so I just chalked it up to Linux power management woes. A couple months ago I was on the brink of selling it for parts, but updated the BIOS as a Hail Mary. Totally fixed it.

I guess I did “ have a specific bug that needs fixed”; I just didn’t know it!

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Why are they so allergic to >60hz displays though? There is zero chance that I'm buying a laptop with a slideshow display like that in current year.

Are you a gamer? Otherwise it's really not easy to notice a "slideshow" at 60 Hz.

Moving the mouse around at anything below 90Hz is pretty rough.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Nice, also my thinkpad required a full dismantle to change the keyboard, so I am rightly pissed given it's a premium product.

Yeah, I was shocked that a keyboard replacement of my company issued X1 is basically a full teardown. When it was time to replace my private laptop a year later, I opted for the L-series, which is much better in that regard and also much cheaper. Keyboard replacements are a pretty standard thing for me, because I don't like my local layout and if you limit yourself to buying with the layout you want, you can only go…

I went with Framework this time, I use linux so I love that if I have a problem with the wifi card on my laptop, I can just replace it

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Do folks have any security concerns with Lenovo? An IT leader at a medium-large US bank recently told me they won't use Lenovo due to security risks from Chinese firmware (or something to that effect, referencing and older incident I don't recall). I've only seen such policies with defense players ten or so years ago. That said, I've owned them personally for 10+ years, so looking for objective thoughts outside repai…

Would that not be a concern for most computers? Aren’t most of these motherboards manufactured in China (or at least close proximity to China? Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Malaysia, etc.) But older Thinkpads (not sure about newer (~5 years old) ones, certainly not brand brand new models) have great support of alternative firmware such as coreboot and libreboot, other projects that disable Intel ME and the like.

Reminds me of the film Armageddon 1998, where the Russian astronaut had some complaints:

USA astronaut: "This is an American aircraft, you don't know the parts"

Russian astronaut: "Ah, American parts, Russian parts... all made in Taiwan!"

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Do folks have any security concerns with Lenovo? An IT leader at a medium-large US bank recently told me they won't use Lenovo due to security risks from Chinese firmware (or something to that effect, referencing and older incident I don't recall). I've only seen such policies with defense players ten or so years ago. That said, I've owned them personally for 10+ years, so looking for objective thoughts outside repai…

The bigger threat is the US, which injects spyware capabilities into every AMD, Intel and Nvidia die.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Damn, everyone is using AI for copyediting now aren't they? Once you notice the patterns you see it everywhere. * "This isn't X. It's Y" * "Some sentence emphasizing something. Describing the same thing with different framing. Describing it a third time but punchier. * The em-dash of course * A hard to describe sense of "cheesiness" I only hope the models get good enough to not be so samey in the future.

* "This isn't X. It's Y"

I find that Gemini uses that phrase way too much.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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I have the ThinkPad p16s AMD gen 2. What it lacks in name it makes up for with being the most headache-free computer I have ever had (including a Macbook). Everything works pretty well out of the box, it never really overheats, Linux support required basically no effort with NixOS, the keyboard feels pretty nice, the screen is bright and easy to read, and fortunately I bought it when RAM prices weren't insane so I go…

I own T14s Gen4 Intel and Linux support is perfect, even fingerprint reader works. Zero complaints. I'm mostly using it in clamshell mode connected via USB-C to display with backwards charging, it all just works! I'm also using secureboot with my keys, I cleared all MS keys and it didn't brick the laptop. My only grievance is a bit buggy firmware. When I turn laptop on or reboot, speakers will randomly be muted (not…

What’s wrong with fwupd? I’ll admit that that the CLI is not exactly awesome, but it seems like a fairly clean implementation of the actual UEFI spec for updates.
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