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I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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Post by chneu »

ambicapter wrote: post #79
jermaustin1 wrote: post #29

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Steam thinks I was born Jan 1, 1970. Not that I needed to lie when I did my age verification back 15 years ago, I just randomly scrolled the year down and selected one. As the years have marched on, though, that "birthdate" becomes significantly closer to my real birthday.

That doesn't make any sense, your fake age increases every year just like your real age.

But it's closer to their real age in relation to the sum. And it makes up more of their life, ratio wise.

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

bpt3 wrote: post #78
bmacho wrote: post #56

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It's not just cookies, it's explicit consent to track you, and sell your browsing history to ~1500 spy companies around the world. To the sibling comments: don't "accept the cookies" and then delete them. - - - I'm super angry at what the web has become, especially at the OS browser community. There is 0 browser (that I know of) that can access the web safely and conveniently. Atm I use Firefox with uBlock which bloc…

What would a safe extension model look like to you? At some point, you have to implicitly trust someone unless you audit every line of code (or write it yourself) and build everything from source that you run.

This is a solved problem for at least ad blockers for over a decade on iOS. The ad blocking extension gives Safari a list of URLs and regex expressions to block

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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Post by reddalo »

mimimi31 wrote: post #44
cm2187 wrote: post #21

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Accept the cookies and flush them out every time you close the browser. I think it would be naive anyway to assume that clicking no on a cookie banner would achieve much for your privacy.

So-called "cookie banners" usually ask for your consent to much more than optional tracking cookies. By accepting you might be giving your permission to e.g. track you through various fingerprinting methods, build a profile and share it with advertising partners.

An additional reason for not browsing the web without uBlock Origin on Firefox or other browsers with full support (not Chrome).

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

Fervicus wrote: post #83
bArray wrote: post #6

I was sitting in a room the other day with a young adult, we were searching for additional algorithm learning materials. They searched in Google, and accept the cookies. They clicked on a website, and accepted those cookies too. They then started entering their email address to access another service. I was completely taken aback. I'm the sort of person that either rejects the cookies, or will use another site entire…

People around me (including engineers) all casually use things like Alexa, Google Home, Ring, Nest, Chrome, are always signed into Google, have all sorts of apps installed on their phones, and have no problems giving up their phone numbers to services for verification. It's crazy.

I bet you use an Android phone don’t you?

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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Post by reddalo »

lkuty wrote: post #4

This is exactly what I am feeling (the title, didn't read). I can't see why I would give a copy of my official id card or a picture of my face to a basic service on the Internet. Seriously ? They do not deserve it. Even my phone number is too much but well Google has it now.

Givin a copy of your ID card to a website? Damn. In my times, we didn't even use to provide our _real name_ to websites.

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

OKRainbowKid wrote: post #51
N0isRESFe8GXmqR wrote: post #36

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Because EU Cookie Law was a flawed idea?

How so? The law doesn't require cookie banners. However, you could argue that tracking/advertisement cookies should have been banned completely and that the law is flawed in that it allows for tracking given user "consent".

I love the EU apologists - “it wasn’t a bad law just because the outcome was bad”

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Post by asr »

adventured wrote: post #84
thewebguyd wrote: post #62

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> It is the young people that are growing up conditioned to press accept It's really alarming, actually. I run the cyber security training & phishing simulations at my work, and it's the younger employees that struggle the most. It's like they just assume that everything on the web is trustworthy. It's not hard to see why though. They grew up with app stores & locked down devices. No concept of a file or file system,…

That's an exaggeration. Young people on average have grown up with drastically greater understanding of what a file is than any other generation that has come before them. They grew up using Chromebooks or laptops in school, constantly interacting with the local file systems, uploading files to Instagram and TikTok from the file systems on their smartphones, browsing their phones for files constantly. They know what…

I use lights every day, but I know way less about electricity than my grandparents, two of whom who could remember when their town was electrified as children and who therefore treated it as the marvel it truly is. And also because we've worked out a ton of bugs in electricity and it often just works.

My kids will know way less about filesystems than I do, because I had to learn DOS commands to navigate around the operating system if I wanted to play computer games, which led to a lifelong interest in how computers actually work at a level they can (and, so far, do) happily ignore.

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Post by bookofjoe »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #90
bArray wrote: post #6

I was sitting in a room the other day with a young adult, we were searching for additional algorithm learning materials. They searched in Google, and accept the cookies. They clicked on a website, and accepted those cookies too. They then started entering their email address to access another service. I was completely taken aback. I'm the sort of person that either rejects the cookies, or will use another site entire…

Again the HN bubble, I assure that the vast majority of adults of any age are not privacy conscious.

Spot on. 99+% of those reading/making these comments use an ad blocker; 99+% of non-techies like me never have and never will.
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