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Re: AWS outage due to drone attacks in UAE

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The world has seen what Israel does when they’re attacked. They don’t get to set moral frameworks anymore.

Who in your opinion sets the moral framework for defending oneself against an enemy which has sworn genocide and proven capable of destroying entire peaceful villages along their borders?

There are no peaceful villages in Israel, they exist only due to recent violence.

Re: AWS outage due to drone attacks in UAE

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What do you mean 'finally' - surely 'redundancy' or 'natural disaster' is reason enough.

To a lot of managers/startup execs this is something like "we won't ever need this". And I'd agree to some extent for not so important/rebuildable services. Depends on what you need. In startups, you don't have infinite time you can spend on stuff. But this makes a good case: if a geographical region only has one AWS region, don't keep data or run services that can't be easily rebuild somewhere else. In europe you ca…

There’s a reason literally every enterprise of any size in the early 00s not only had a DR site, but a DR plan they would test multiple times per year.

1. Just having a copy in two places doesn’t mean the copies are both good or that you can get DR online in any reasonable amount of time.

2. You quickly figure out all the things you thought “weren’t important” that prevent you from actually doing a successful DR test.

They amount of things that “cloud first” people just assume naturally takes care of itself because it’s in the cloud always amuses me.

Re: AWS outage due to drone attacks in UAE

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I've been working on that for a client since yesterday (as a fractional CTO). Pretty hectic, basically nothing really works and we don't know yet if all data is lost or if anything is recoverable or when AWS UAE will become functional again so we can recover that region. Finally, I have a very good argument for multi-region deployments ;)) that's my go to website atm: https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status

So AWS's availability zone architecture hasn't helped in this case?

All AZs were affected

Re: AWS outage due to drone attacks in UAE

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post #112

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To a lot of managers/startup execs this is something like "we won't ever need this". And I'd agree to some extent for not so important/rebuildable services. Depends on what you need. In startups, you don't have infinite time you can spend on stuff. But this makes a good case: if a geographical region only has one AWS region, don't keep data or run services that can't be easily rebuild somewhere else. In europe you ca…

There’s a reason literally every enterprise of any size in the early 00s not only had a DR site, but a DR plan they would test multiple times per year. 1. Just having a copy in two places doesn’t mean the copies are both good or that you can get DR online in any reasonable amount of time. 2. You quickly figure out all the things you thought “weren’t important” that prevent you from actually doing a successful DR test…

You should have that for your main data, yes. I insist on that as well. Making backups, cold storage, and getting them back online. Yearly is not enough. My point was that not everything needs a backup or a DR. Spend your time wisely, we're talking startups, not enterprise. Can't talk more specifics obviously

Re: AWS outage due to drone attacks in UAE

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post #112

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There’s a reason literally every enterprise of any size in the early 00s not only had a DR site, but a DR plan they would test multiple times per year. 1. Just having a copy in two places doesn’t mean the copies are both good or that you can get DR online in any reasonable amount of time. 2. You quickly figure out all the things you thought “weren’t important” that prevent you from actually doing a successful DR test…

You should have that for your main data, yes. I insist on that as well. Making backups, cold storage, and getting them back online. Yearly is not enough. My point was that not everything needs a backup or a DR. Spend your time wisely, we're talking startups, not enterprise. Can't talk more specifics obviously

The fact half the internet was down the last time US east was down tells me it’s not just startups that foolishly think they don’t need actively tested dr copies and plans when they move to the cloud.

Re: AWS outage due to drone attacks in UAE

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The IDF did not starve civilians - that lie has already been disproven. I know that you'd love to repeat it until history records it, but by no objective measure was there famine nor starvation in Gaza. Other than the starvation of Hamas' hostages. The images of "starving children" were images of children with other medical conditions. The UN reports used a metric that considered starvation at HALF the threshold used…

… but they did bomb apartment buildings in Tehran. I saw that with my own eyes. Stick to the challenge: what won't you accept? Nothing?

I accept the bombing of buildings which house those who have declared "Death to America, Death to Israel", and then have proceeded to bomb apartment buildings in Beit Shemesh.

Re: AWS outage due to drone attacks in UAE

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Instead of claiming "whatever bullshit you come up with" at me, go search for Qatari influence in English too. I prefer Qatari sources in Arabic because then one cannot claim a biased source, but for those who can not read Arabic there is ample English language discussion. Here's just the first two Google results, enjoy, there's quite a few more from both sides of the US political divide if you would like to start ni…

Everybody got flagged in this thread lol What is your argument again? Is it that Qatar used propaganda to make americans anti-war in the middle east or something? I don't even know at this point.

Re: AWS outage due to drone attacks in UAE

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… but they did bomb apartment buildings in Tehran. I saw that with my own eyes. Stick to the challenge: what won't you accept? Nothing?

I accept the bombing of buildings which house those who have declared "Death to America, Death to Israel", and then have proceeded to bomb apartment buildings in Beit Shemesh.

That's a war crime.

Re: AWS outage due to drone attacks in UAE

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I accept the bombing of buildings which house those who have declared "Death to America, Death to Israel", and then have proceeded to bomb apartment buildings in Beit Shemesh.

That's a war crime.

No, that's just war.

Re: AWS outage due to drone attacks in UAE

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They have been chanting "down with America" - that does not mean "murder every single person in America with their missiles (which can't reach America)" "Death to" is a mistranslation of "marg bar", a phrase that is also applied to traffic, and inflation. Do the Iranians want to kill all traffic and all... inflation? We no longer believe your lies.

I'm grant you that I do not speak Persian, but I do speak Arabic and Hebrew. In Arabic the phrase موت لامريكا is common enough. And this Hebrew sign in Tehran says "prepare your coffins":

https://www.alamy.com/an-anti-israeli-mural-showing-a-launch...

So I do appreciate you educating me on the literal meaning of the Persian phrase, yet I dispute your interpretation that they state no intention of murdering us. Quite the opposite, the more I research it the more Hebrew banners in Tehran I see and I can conclude not only are they capable of murdering myself and my children, they have intent as well.

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