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Re: Operational issue – Multiple services (UAE)

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Post by sebastiennight »

breppp wrote: post #107
sebastiennight wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you please share sources?

refineries, gas fields - https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/saudi-aramco-shuts-r... dubai airport, residential buildings, hotels, ports - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/several-loud-blast... https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/03/01/i... Bahrain - https://bh.usembassy.gov/security-alert-update-5-u-s-embassy... You can google for other targets in Qatar, Oman, Jordan, Iraq, Cyprus and K…

Thanks for the links, which I've reviewed. Allow me to clarify: I meant sources that confirm that the civilian places hit (eg. hotels and residential buildings) were the actual targets.

Local and official news all say that these were hit by debris from intercepted missiles/drones (on their way to somewhere else). There is a major difference between this, vs. if those buildings were directly being targeted.

AFAICT your linked sources indicate that the oil installations and ports were targets, but not the hotels and buildings.

I'm asking in good faith as this makes a significant difference.

Re: Operational issue – Multiple services (UAE)

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Post by breppp »

sebastiennight wrote: post #111
breppp wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

refineries, gas fields - https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/saudi-aramco-shuts-r... dubai airport, residential buildings, hotels, ports - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/several-loud-blast... https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/03/01/i... Bahrain - https://bh.usembassy.gov/security-alert-update-5-u-s-embassy... You can google for other targets in Qatar, Oman, Jordan, Iraq, Cyprus and K…

Thanks for the links, which I've reviewed. Allow me to clarify: I meant sources that confirm that the civilian places hit (eg. hotels and residential buildings) were the actual targets. Local and official news all say that these were hit by debris from intercepted missiles/drones (on their way to somewhere else). There is a major difference between this, vs. if those buildings were directly being targeted. AFAICT you…

I don't see the large difference between a civilian port, a civilian oil facility or a civilian aluminum factory vs a hotel on the topic of whether the Iranians are capable of targeting a civilian data center, however, assuming you are curious, here goes

Finding these take time so I am sorry if this is going to be the last of these sources I'll paste, for example Bahrain luxury apartments building being hit:

https://edition.cnn.com/world/video/bahrain-iran-drone-strik...

US warning that high rise buildings in Bahrain are being targeted by Iranians drones:

https://x.com/TravelGov/status/2027843430987010446

Re: Operational issue – Multiple services (UAE)

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Post by protocolture »

bigfatkitten wrote: post #88
protocolture wrote: post #68

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Equinix in Sydney plonked 2 datacenters right on top of each other, and still insists that they are useful as redundant sites. There was a locally very funny situation for a while when a tech influencer was insisting both equinix sites could be shut down by a single building collapse. He was wrong, but he wasn't so wrong that people shouldn't make better infrastructure decisions.

The two in Alexandria are of course just down the road from the airport. A widebody jet cratering in that location will put them both out of business.

None of the runways point towards them, its hard to imagine that scenario.

Re: Operational issue – Multiple services (UAE)

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Post by aaron695 »

breppp wrote: post #112
sebastiennight wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the links, which I've reviewed. Allow me to clarify: I meant sources that confirm that the civilian places hit (eg. hotels and residential buildings) were the actual targets. Local and official news all say that these were hit by debris from intercepted missiles/drones (on their way to somewhere else). There is a major difference between this, vs. if those buildings were directly being targeted. AFAICT you…

I don't see the large difference between a civilian port, a civilian oil facility or a civilian aluminum factory vs a hotel on the topic of whether the Iranians are capable of targeting a civilian data center, however, assuming you are curious, here goes Finding these take time so I am sorry if this is going to be the last of these sources I'll paste, for example Bahrain luxury apartments building being hit: https://…

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Re: Operational issue – Multiple services (UAE)

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Post by protocolture »

jiggawatts wrote: post #95
bigfatkitten wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The two in Alexandria are of course just down the road from the airport. A widebody jet cratering in that location will put them both out of business.

They're also below sea level.

Theres an Energex office building in Brisbane that has a backup generator below sea level. (Guess when they need to use the generator lmao.)

Re: Operational issue – Multiple services (UAE)

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Post by earthboundkid »

crote wrote: post #60
SoftTalker wrote: post #43

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Data centers are usually built to withstand local natural risks e.g. weather. All bets, SLAs, and insurance are usually off when it comes to acts of war.

There's also just an upper limit to the kind of risk you can reasonably defend against. An out-of-control wildfire levels the entire city? The Big One hits the Bay Area? The entire city is flooded for a few months because the levees break during a Cat5 hurricane? Yeah, your DC will be completely ruined. And even if it isn't, you're probably not getting any outside power, generator fuel, or repair technicians for a wh…

In terms of deliberate attacks on a DC, an adversary that can bomb a blast resistant bunker can easily bomb the data lines going in and out, to say nothing of external power supplies. I guess you can at least repair the lines after the attack, but it's pretty easy to knock it offline if that's your goal. I just don't see the value in making a DC blast resistant compared to the huge costs.

Re: Operational issue – Multiple services (UAE)

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Post by bigfatkitten »

protocolture wrote: post #113
bigfatkitten wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The two in Alexandria are of course just down the road from the airport. A widebody jet cratering in that location will put them both out of business.

None of the runways point towards them, its hard to imagine that scenario.

34R does. The immediate right turn in the 34R ILS and RNP missed approach procedures takes you pretty much directly overhead Equinix.

Aircraft routinely overfly the location either on departure from 34R or approach for 16L.

Re: Operational issue – Multiple services (UAE)

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Post by debo_ »

Cyph0n wrote: post #108
debo_ wrote: post #96

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Yes of course. But they also have to know that concentrated compute is an attractive target for marauding countries that decide on a whim to bomb you from outside.

I think you mean when the US and Israel decide to start an unprovoked war “on a whim”.

Yes, that is exactly what I mean.
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