Introducing the new compose in Gmail • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by tomasien » Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 6:59 PM UTC

alanctgardner2 wrote: post #43

tomasien wrote: post #23

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I dislike all native mail clients even more than I dislike the iOS gmail app, which is largely a hybrid web app if I'm not mistaken. I use the iOS gmail app, but what I really want is this: An app that present emails to me like iOS messages, but with some design changes to fit long content. This would allow for better context (messages are individualized and chronological) and faster, one touch responding while I'm o…

I hate to be that guy, but buy an Android. Google is working to expose a lot of ways to reply quickly to texts and email, and I don't think Apple really cares about being ahead of the curve in this area. For example, Jelly Bean adds the ability to open a modal dialog and reply to a text message without switching applications. Presumably, this feature will come to GMail shortly, and if not, someone can use the API to…

I think I'll just build what I want myself so I don't have to literally switch hardware and software completely. I prefer the consistency of iOS hardware and the superior 3rd party app quality, and that shows no sign of changing any time soon.

Plus, the iPhone 4 is the best free phone you can get by far.

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by city41 » Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 7:02 PM UTC

mdonahoe wrote: post #87

fcoury wrote: post #85

I would really appreciate if Google took some time to work on the speed issues we now experience with Gmail instead of working on this cosmetic changes. I use Gmail basically ever since it was on early early stages (I even pay for more storage for years now) and the degradation of performance is the one thing that makes me think of leaving the service for something snappier.

How much data do you have? My personal gmail has less than 3gb, and I dont notice any performance issues.

I experience performance issues a fair amount in gmail now. The issues are network related. Such as sending a message or just loading your inbox can take forever and error out.

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by ImprovedSilence » Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 7:06 PM UTC

kenko wrote: post #109

ImprovedSilence wrote: post #92

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I hate hate HATE new windows. It reminds me of IE or MS outlook manage this particular problem. I like this idea of a smaller chat like window, it's really blurring the line between chat and email once again. (Like google did when they started chaining emails together. Remember when that wasn't even a thing! I do, cuz I was amazed when google started doing it.) I think google really gets me when it comes to how I lik…

If I'm reading the wikipedia article correctly, Mutt was threading email in 1995.

haha touche. Granted... Mutt was terminal based....

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by tripzilch » Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 7:08 PM UTC

zaidf wrote: post #44

JoshTriplett wrote: post #31

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Worse yet, they've somehow broken the ability to hit space to scroll by a page.

That is keeping with google's newly found traditions. For example, the ajax-ing of search has mostly broken the back key among others. Shit Case 1: sometimes you do a search, find a new phrase and begin typing it only to see the phrase disappear from the original search results and replaced with updated results for an incomplete and often incoherent query. Shit Case 2: often I begin typing a new search query and real…

BTW you can fix both of these issues by disabling Javascript for http?://www.google.com/search/* (I use the "site preferences" in Opera for this, but I assume other browsers have similar built-in features). What you get back is something very much like the old vanilla Google web search.

I used to have it for quite some time, new laptop set it back to normal, and for now it hasn't quite annoyed me enough yet to set it again (also because I'm using DuckDuckGo much more these days, for similar reasons), but it was good when I had it.

I really wish Google had some setting to turn off this "instant search update" thing, as well as how the input box continuously steals the focus (this breaks many keyboard shortcuts in Opera), because the other interactive/dynamic features they do with JS on the web search page are quite useful.

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by zmj » Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 7:09 PM UTC

DanBC wrote: post #67

zaidf wrote: post #44

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That is keeping with google's newly found traditions. For example, the ajax-ing of search has mostly broken the back key among others. Shit Case 1: sometimes you do a search, find a new phrase and begin typing it only to see the phrase disappear from the original search results and replaced with updated results for an incomplete and often incoherent query. Shit Case 2: often I begin typing a new search query and real…

> I find some of these changes mind boggling and can only convince myself to accept them by tell myself "hey google looks at the numbers, may be most folks just like it". Particularly the ajax search...annoys the crap out of me and finds way to enable itself even when I disable it. Google needs to be usable by everyone. They iterate the product to make sure that most people get good search results. But this means tha…

> Google needs to be usable by everyone.

Why does Google need to work the same way for everyone?

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by kamakazizuru » Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 7:13 PM UTC

awesome! this makes up quite a bit of the love they lost with their abyssmal redesign earlier this year!

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by Teckla » Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 7:14 PM UTC

manaskarekar wrote: post #90

Does anyone have a comprehensive/good solution to how to move all your stuff out of Gmail? Midway while typing this post, I did a search and boom: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3581613

Does anyone have a comprehensive/good solution to how to move all your stuff out of Gmail?

I use Thunderbird + IMAP to sync a local copy of my Gmail email every week or two.

It does not sync anything except your email, but even that much is pretty nice, for peace of mind.

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by elionchin » Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 7:15 PM UTC

Speaking on a tangent. Has anybody not found it annoying that you can't auto-BCC yourself in Gmail? Only if you do so does it pull up the message thread to the top which I prefer to keep track of timelines. I would be fine without the BCC as long as the thread reflects my response time. Either way, room for improvement.

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by comex » Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 7:17 PM UTC

kenko wrote: post #109

ImprovedSilence wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate hate HATE new windows. It reminds me of IE or MS outlook manage this particular problem. I like this idea of a smaller chat like window, it's really blurring the line between chat and email once again. (Like google did when they started chaining emails together. Remember when that wasn't even a thing! I do, cuz I was amazed when google started doing it.) I think google really gets me when it comes to how I lik…

If I'm reading the wikipedia article correctly, Mutt was threading email in 1995.

Gmail's innovation wasn't threading, but conversation view - displaying all the messages in a thread (linearly)in a large scrollable region rather than one at a time.

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by anonymouz » Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 7:30 PM UTC

ImprovedSilence wrote: post #113

kenko wrote: post #109

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If I'm reading the wikipedia article correctly, Mutt was threading email in 1995.

haha touche. Granted... Mutt was terminal based....

> Mutt was terminal based

And it still is, as many satisfied users will tell you.