US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

Post by joe_mamba » Wed, Feb 25, 2026, 4:05 PM UTC

kyboren wrote: post #97

llm_nerd wrote: post #46

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>American domiciled VCs and companies can outinvest just about any other competitor, Because every investor in the world put their money in the US. They knew the best companies and people would centralize around that hub. When the US is a rogue, isolated idiocracy -- already true, but the world takes time to adapt to this new reality -- how much of that money do you think will flow to the US?

> When the US is a rogue, isolated idiocracy This reads like wishful thinking from a butthurt European. I am not a fan of many of Trump's policies and I think ex-US investor sentiment has definitely soured. But it's not like the USA is now DPRK. > how much of that money do you think will flow to the US? If there's one thing you can be sure of about aggregate investor behavior, it's that investors seek good risk-adjus…

Post by porknbeans00 » Wed, Feb 25, 2026, 4:06 PM UTC

Beretta_Vexee wrote: post #91

It is incredibly stupid and counterproductive to make this kind of statement publicly. Most of the GAFAM companies are doing their utmost to try to reassure their European customers with a facade of sovereignty. All these efforts will come to nothing. Amazon sovereign cloud https://aws.eu/fr/ Azure sovereign https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/sovereignty Oracle soverign https://www.oracle.com/fr/cloud/eu-sovereign-cloud…

Post by surgical_fire » Wed, Feb 25, 2026, 4:06 PM UTC

embedding-shape wrote: post #52

surgical_fire wrote: post #42

> The cable said the Trump administration was pushing for "a more assertive international data policy" and that diplomats should "counter unnecessarily burdensome regulations, such as data localization mandates." For any government in Europe, it should be extremely pressing to untangle itself as quickly as possible from US-based companies as suppliers. But to be frank, even regulations should be unnecessary here. Pri…

> Private businesses in Europe (and elsewhere) should consider it an existential threat to depend on cloud services from the US They do already, everyone except the ones truly deep into the US ecosystem already have plans or are making plans for how to get out from US infrastructure in 2026.

Post by throw0101a » Wed, Feb 25, 2026, 4:08 PM UTC

Tyrubias wrote: post #13

esafak wrote: post #5

I wonder if he would go so far as to withhold access to US tech to this end.

I imagine if the current administration does, Europe could retaliate by withholding ASML’s tech or even doing a mass sell off of US treasuries. Europe is admittedly not in a position of strength compared to the US, but there are still a lot of levers they can pull.

Post by embedding-shape » Wed, Feb 25, 2026, 4:09 PM UTC

delecti wrote: post #67

embedding-shape wrote: post #45

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If you're not in the EU, what even is the impact on you that was caused by GDPR? You're essentially not affected by it unless you run a business, which now you need to take greater care of the personal data you store. Is that what's annoying you or what?

The EU is to blame for cookie banners on basically every website on the internet. I wish the US had something similar, and that there was more enforcement of disallowing "accept all" buttons without an equivalent "reject all" option. I also recognize that websites don't need the banner if they aren't trying to track me, but lets not pretend there aren't annoying consequences.