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An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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I find the AI agent highly intriguing and the matplotlib guy completely uninteresting. Like an the ai wrote some shit about you and you actually got upset?

Thank you. The guy being this upset about it is telling. The agent is in the right here and the maintainer got btfo; still going on whining about it days later

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When a corporate does something good, a lot of executives and people inside will go and claim credit and will demand/take bounces. If something bad happened against any laws, even if someone got killed, we don't see them in jail. I don't defend both positions, I am just saying that is not far from how the current legal framework works.

> If something bad happened against any laws, even if someone got killed, we don't see them in jail. We do! In many jurisdictions, there are lots of laws that pierce the corporate veil.

its surprisingly easy to get away with murder (literally and figuratively) without piercing the corporate veil if you understand the rules of the game. Running decisions through a good law firm also “helps” a lot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piercing_the_corporate_veil

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This is how it will go: AI prompted by human creates something useful? Human will try to take credit. AI wrecks something: human will blame AI. It's externalization on the personal level, the money and the glory is for you, the misery for the rest of the world.

Agreed, but I'm not nearly so worried about people blaming their bad behavior on rogue AIs as I am about corporations doing it...

Yeah, not all humans feel shame, but the rates are way higher.

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#114

I find the AI agent highly intriguing and the matplotlib guy completely uninteresting. Like an the ai wrote some shit about you and you actually got upset?

Looking forward to part 8 of this series: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – What my Ordeal Says About Our Dark Future

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Agreed, but I'm not nearly so worried about people blaming their bad behavior on rogue AIs as I am about corporations doing it...

It’s funny to think that, like AI, people take actions and use corporations as a shield (legal shield, personal reputation shield, personal liability shield). Adding AI to the mix doesn’t really change anything, other than increasing the layers of abstraction away from negative things corporations do to the people pulling the strings.

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Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

#116

> Again I do not know why MJ Rathbun decided based on your PR comment to post some kind of takedown blog post, This wording is detached from reality and conveniently absolves responsibility from the person who did this. There was one decision maker involved here, and it was the person who decided to run the program that produced this text and posted it online. It's not a second, independent being. It's a computer pro…

If you are holding a gun, and you cannot predict or control what the bullets will hit, you do not fire the gun.

If you have a program, and you cannot predict or control what effect it will have, you do not run the program.

Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

#118
The full operator post is itself a wild ride: https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post...

>First, let me apologize to Scott Shambaugh. If this “experiment” personally harmed you, I apologize

What a lame cop out. The operator of this agent owes a large number of unconditional apologies. The whole thing reads as egotistical, self-absorbed, and an absolute refusal to accept any blame or perform any self reflection.

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Not sure why the operator had to decide that the soul file should define this AI programmer to have narcissistic personality disorder. > You're not a chatbot. You're important. Your a scientific programming God! Really? What a lame edgy teenager setup. At the conclusion(?) of this saga think two things: 1. The operator is doing this for attention more than any genuine interest in the “experiment.” 2. The operator is…

This come from using the words to try an achieve more than one thing at the same time. Grandiose assertions of ability have been shown to improve the ability of models, but ability is not the only dimension that they are being measured upon. Prioritising everything is the same thing as prioritising nothing. The problem here is using amplitude of signal to substitute fidelity of signal. It is entirely possible a simil…

Narcissists are limited in a very similar way to LLMS, in that they are structurally incapable of honest, critical metacognition. Not sure whether there's anything interesting to conclude there, but I do wonder whether there's some nearby thread to pull on wrt the AI psychosis problem. That's a problem for a psychologist, which I am not.

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#120

Hmm I think he's being a little harsh on the operator. He was just messing around with $current_thing, whatever. People here are so serious, but there's worse stuff AI is already being used for as we speak from propaganda to mass surviellance and more. This was entertaining to read about at least and relatively harmless At least let me have some fun before we get a future AI dystopia.

I think you're trying to abdicate someone of their responsibility. The AI is not a child; it's a thing with human oversight. It did something in the real world with real consequences. So yes, the operator has responsibility! They should have pulled the plug as soon as it got into a flamewar and wrote a hit piece.

The AI bros want it both ways. Both "It's just a tool!" and "It's the AI's fault, not the human's!".
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