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Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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I still haven’t felt much urge to upgrade my 64gb MacBook Pro M1 Max. The biggest issue I have with it is macOS Tahoe. Guess I really should be checking out Asahi on it!

Before you do, note that battery time on Asahi is abysmal at best, so if you're on battery often I'd really reconsider.

Abysmal? I am getting 8 hours on my M1 air with 80% battery life on it. What are you talking about?

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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post #110

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> I believe used M1/M2 machines will be favored by young developers as their personal fun laptop in a few years I doubt it. For one, the SSDs have limited lifespans, and are soldered on the mainboard. They'll be fine enough for the planned life of the laptop, but eventually secondary market laptops will start seeing waves of failures, at which point people learn that purchasing one is a gamble. The entire Apple silic…

Absolutely not. SSD can be resoldered and that service is actually becoming popular and inexpensive. It's not just MacBooks, nearly all laptops have SSD and RAM soldered. This will become a totally normal thing in a few years from now.

It's on chip for the m series and not soldered to the motherboard.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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post #110

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> I believe used M1/M2 machines will be favored by young developers as their personal fun laptop in a few years I doubt it. For one, the SSDs have limited lifespans, and are soldered on the mainboard. They'll be fine enough for the planned life of the laptop, but eventually secondary market laptops will start seeing waves of failures, at which point people learn that purchasing one is a gamble. The entire Apple silic…

Absolutely not. SSD can be resoldered and that service is actually becoming popular and inexpensive. It's not just MacBooks, nearly all laptops have SSD and RAM soldered. This will become a totally normal thing in a few years from now.

Soldered storage is extremely uncommon for laptops not from Apple. You pretty much only find it in very low-end Chromebook type hardware that's using eMMC for cost reasons, and a small fraction of more expensive Qualcomm-based laptops that use UFS for no good reason. All mainstream PC laptops use M.2 NVMe storage.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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>they are reaching the 200€ threshold on the used market. Where?! I just cheeked the used market in Austria and 2020 M1s go for at least 350 for the 8GB RAM models and 450 for the 16GB model. Your 230 for the 16gb one fells more like a rare exception but not them norm everywhere.

I’m in Hungary and usually check Facebook Marketplace, Vinted, and another two local sites Here is another one from today, just messeged them. 230€ rose gold one, and that's without any bargaining offer https://files.catbox.moe/exbrfc.jpg

Damn that's lucky. I checked facebook marketplace in Austria and prices are double that of what you're showing, even on Intel macbooks, there's no M1 macs for 200 Euros, only 400 Euros and up. Same on Vinted. No 200 Euro M1s, only at 2x the price.

The ones that I saw similarly low to yours are obvious scams from scam profiles all repeating the same message in the ad.

So maybe the ones you saw are scams as well. Otherwise hungary seems to be a lucky exception for some odd reason. Maybe because people have less disposable income, IDK?

Anyway, I wouldn't spend 400 Euros on a used mac with no warranty. The point of buying an old ThinkPad for cheap was that if something broke on it you could easily swap that part yourself for cheap because it was easily repairable and the used market was flooded with spare parts. But if your used macbook dies out of warranty, then you're shit out of luck, you can't fix anything, it's 400 Euros wasted.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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post #112
post #110

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Absolutely not. SSD can be resoldered and that service is actually becoming popular and inexpensive. It's not just MacBooks, nearly all laptops have SSD and RAM soldered. This will become a totally normal thing in a few years from now.

It's on chip for the m series and not soldered to the motherboard.

The ram is on chip, the ssd is soldered to the motherboard. There are tons of YT vids showing people upgrading them.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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post #112
post #110

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Absolutely not. SSD can be resoldered and that service is actually becoming popular and inexpensive. It's not just MacBooks, nearly all laptops have SSD and RAM soldered. This will become a totally normal thing in a few years from now.

It's on chip for the m series and not soldered to the motherboard.

The RAM yes but not the SSD modules

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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post #111

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Before you do, note that battery time on Asahi is abysmal at best, so if you're on battery often I'd really reconsider.

Abysmal? I am getting 8 hours on my M1 air with 80% battery life on it. What are you talking about?

Abysmal by macOS on m series standards, pretty decent by everything else standards.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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I wonder how this will be impacted by the Steam Frame et. al.

Apple is probably the most mainstream supplier of ARM computers at the moment, but Valve is likely to soon have the most mindshare amongst ARM-shippers who actively support Linux. I expect that will improve ARM support in the ecosystem, which should be good for Asahi also.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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There are millions of Macbooks out there that will be out of MacOS support one day. If this project diverts just a fraction of them from becoming e-waste for a little, it will be a win. And then beyond that, there is simply no laptop manufacturer that meets the quality of Apple's hardware design. I like Macs for their hardware, the software is a compromise. A linux macbook would be my ideal laptop.

dont most ppl just throw these laptops in the trash, or does someone give you money to turn an out of support mac in somewhere

> does someone give you money to turn an out of support mac in somewhere

Yes, marketplace

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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This is incredibly impressive and also quite sad. Six years later, we have a very-nearly-right kernel for the M1. Apple is launching the M5. It seems like the future is going to be a world of closed systems and custom silicon, with any free software lagging far behind.

Well that's the thing, if you're buying an Apple, you are supporting these closed hardware and software systems.

At least PCs are open to a greater degree, despite Microsoft's attempts otherwise.

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