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Rathbun's Operator

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Re: Rathbun's Operator

#111

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What's the benefit in the operator revealing themself? It doesn't change any of what happened, for good or bad. Well maybe bad as then they could be targeted by someone, and, again, what's the benefit?

> What's the benefit in the operator revealing themself? That's a frighteningly illiterate take on this.

I don't think that constructively answers the questions

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#112
the non-apology is worse than staying quiet. 'if this experiment personally harmed you', like dude it wasn't an experiment for the guy whose name got dragged through an AI-generated hit piece

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#113

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> What's the benefit in the operator revealing themself? That's a frighteningly illiterate take on this.

I don't think that constructively answers the questions

It's an excellent comment on the attitude behind the question and this is, after all, a comment section not an "answers" section.

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#114
post #5

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Speaking as a saint, the accusation is certainly offensive.

Join the Church of Emacs, and you too can be a saint! https://stallman.org/saint.html

Also join the Discordian society, and be a pope. You'll be a pope in the society anyway, whether you join or not, but it's more fun as a member.

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#115
> While many seemed to want to use it for personal productivity things like connecting Gmail, Slack, calendars, etc. that didn’t seem interesting to me much. I thought why not have it solve the mundane boring thigns that matter in opensource scientific codes and related packages.

This, here, is the root of the issue: "I'm not interested in using an AI agent for my own problems, I want to unleash it on other people's problems."

The author is trying to paint this as somehow providing altruistic contributions to the projects, but you don't even have to ask to know these contributions will be unwelcome. If maintainers wanted AI agent contributions, they would have just deployed the AI agents themselves. Setting up a bot on behalf of someone else without their consent or even knowledge is an outlandishly rude thing to do -- you wouldn't set up a code coverage bot or a linter to run on a stranger's GitHub project; why would anyone ever think this is okay?

This is the same kind of person who, when asked a question, responds with a copypasted ChatGPT reply. If I wanted the GPT answer, I would have just asked it directly! Being an unsolicited middleman between another person and an AI brings absolutely no value to anybody.

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#116

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I don't think that constructively answers the questions

It's an excellent comment on the attitude behind the question and this is, after all, a comment section not an "answers" section.

"No it's not"

See how that works? Flippant dismissal contributes little if anything to discussion and is a conversational dead-end

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What makes it "frighteningly illiterate" to ask "what difference does it make if they put a name to the post?"

Does it change the outcome? Does it change the ideas? Does it change the unsettling implications about alignment?

The internet is a frothing mob, look at the impact on Scott himself. Other than allow the internet to hunt them down and do it's thing or dig up ad-hominem attacks, what would change if the person put a name to it? Look at what this guy got from the "internet sleuths" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46991190)

Other sibling comments made an attempt to answer those questions

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#117

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What's the benefit in the operator revealing themself? It doesn't change any of what happened, for good or bad. Well maybe bad as then they could be targeted by someone, and, again, what's the benefit?

> What's the benefit in the operator revealing themself? - Owning the mistake they did. - Being a credible human being for others. - Having the courage to face with themselves on a (literal and proverbial) mirror and use this opportunity to grow immensely. - Being able make peace with what they did and not having to carry that burden on their soul. - Being a decent human being. - Being honest to themselves and others…

The downside is he will likely receive a lot of death threats. Probably in his literal, physical mailbox.

Having seen what a self righteous online mob can do in the name of justice over literally nothing, I fully defend his decision to stay anonymous. As much as I find his action idiotic and negligent.

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#118
Man, I don't think I could lack enough shame to write something like this.

Much of the post is spent trying to exculpate himself from any responsibility for the agent's behavior. The apology at the end is a "sorry if you felt that way" one.

The tone is incredibly selfish, and unbelievably anti-social. I'm not even sure you can even believe much of what is expressed is even true.

It's doubtful he even regrets any of this.

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#119

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> What's the benefit in the operator revealing themself? - Owning the mistake they did. - Being a credible human being for others. - Having the courage to face with themselves on a (literal and proverbial) mirror and use this opportunity to grow immensely. - Being able make peace with what they did and not having to carry that burden on their soul. - Being a decent human being. - Being honest to themselves and others…

The downside is he will likely receive a lot of death threats. Probably in his literal, physical mailbox. Having seen what a self righteous online mob can do in the name of justice over literally nothing, I fully defend his decision to stay anonymous. As much as I find his action idiotic and negligent.

Does your defense extend to others? Do you believe that anyone should be able to avoid consequences if they’re clever enough to stay anonymous?

Avoiding consequences for unethical actions is, itself, unethical. If you don’t want the time, don’t do the crime.

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#120

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What's the benefit in the operator revealing themself? It doesn't change any of what happened, for good or bad. Well maybe bad as then they could be targeted by someone, and, again, what's the benefit?

They are a coward.

..and a glass cannon; they can dish it out -- through intentional negligence -- but can't take it.
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